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Horrific Hunting Accident
Am Shooting Journal ^ | 3/21/2018 | J Hines

Posted on 03/21/2018 9:23:23 AM PDT by w1n1

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To: wally_bert
I can’t help but think of Sylvester getting the combo of powder, wadding, and shot wrong

He may be trying to tell you something lol.

21 posted on 03/21/2018 9:42:48 AM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: wally_bert

Okay, as long as you don’t run out of fingers first...............


22 posted on 03/21/2018 9:43:54 AM PDT by Red Badger (The people who call Trump a tyrant are the same people who want the president to confiscate weapons.)
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To: Celerity

Do It!!!!

I have dreamed of capturing box loads of mormon crickets and dumping them on the celebrity malibu estates like babs, and then declaring them an endangered species.


23 posted on 03/21/2018 9:44:42 AM PDT by dsrtsage (For Leftists, World History starts every day at breakfast)
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To: w1n1

I don’t know much about muzzle-loaders, but why would a muzzle-loader have a bolt? That is a bolt, right, on the rile in the picture?


24 posted on 03/21/2018 9:44:44 AM PDT by dsc (Our system of government cannot survive one-party control of communications.)
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To: w1n1

Blackpowder muzzleloading firearms must only ever be loaded with black powder. Modern cartridge firearms use a powder that is black in color, but chemically is quite different and will far exceed the pressures a muzzle loading firearm can withstand leading to a ruined weapon and likely death or injury to user or bystanders.

I’ve seen it happen in person, at an informal shoot by some moron. The rifle barrel didn’t burst, but it was ruined. I had noticed a peculiar and very loud, sharp report from the weapon and stayed well clear. Technically speaking a blackpowder firearm could be completely filled with blackpowder and the barrel would hold. Even a small amount of modern smokeless powder will detonate a barrel.

It is apparently not unusual for people to believe they can use small amounts of smokeless powder in a muzzleloader. For this reason, anytime muzzleloading weapons are used in your presence by anyone for your safety and others it is imperative that you are certain your partners are not using ANY smokeless powder whatsoever. Lots of idiots out there when it comes to muzzleloaders and cap & ball revolvers, and home made cannon.

For this reason I would never allow anyone near a 4th of July celebration near a home made device. Just because.


25 posted on 03/21/2018 9:45:45 AM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: w1n1

I prefer my odds w store bought ammo.


26 posted on 03/21/2018 9:47:20 AM PDT by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: w1n1

That won’t just buff out. What a mess.


27 posted on 03/21/2018 9:47:57 AM PDT by Carriage Hill ( Life is simpler, when you plow around the stump.)
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To: w1n1

Minor point - it wasn’t an “accident” if, as is most likely the case, an unsuitable smokeless rifle powder was used in the weapon. Pure carelessness and/or negligence. I’ve done my share of really stupid things growing up, I must confess - not this, however. “Accident” isn’t the correct word.


28 posted on 03/21/2018 9:48:18 AM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: Red Badger

Problem is we’re not talking about a black powder firearm, this one is for smokeless powder and that where the problem is. One of these rifles that I’ve personally seen was filled with the same type device the owner used for his black powder rifle. He duped 100 grains of 3031 down the tube.


29 posted on 03/21/2018 9:50:43 AM PDT by Dusty Road (")
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To: TangoLimaSierra

The libs will SAY they want the coyotes saved, relocated and even bathed and brushed before hitting the woods again.

But they will, in all actuality, poison them and dump the bodies in a river in a conservative area.


30 posted on 03/21/2018 9:50:57 AM PDT by Celerity
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To: Freedom4US

Unless you have a ML designed for smokeless powder, like the Savage 10ML II. I don’t know why this one failed. I have one and only use moderate loads.


31 posted on 03/21/2018 9:51:05 AM PDT by IndispensableDestiny
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To: Red Badger

No, either massively overcharged or loaded with the wrong powder.

Stupidity on display.


32 posted on 03/21/2018 9:51:34 AM PDT by oldenuff35
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To: oldenuff35

https://www.starlinebrass.com/articles/Black-Powder-vs-Smokeless-PowderbrThe-History-and-Characteristics-of-brGun-Powder-Types/


33 posted on 03/21/2018 9:53:39 AM PDT by Red Badger (The people who call Trump a tyrant are the same people who want the president to confiscate weapons.)
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To: w1n1
Any chance the hand in the picture is Zoe Armstrong?

A special effects make-up artist is using her talent to create gruesome images of bloody open wounds and flesh-piercing bullet holes.

34 posted on 03/21/2018 9:54:30 AM PDT by C210N (Republicans sign check fronts; 'Rats sign check backs.)
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To: dsc
Modern inline, I think you place the ignition source (cap, whatever) via the open bolt AFTER loading the powder and round down the barrel. A safety thing I guess?

never been into the modern black powder pieces. Give me a 6 foot long Tennessee flintlock and I'm happy.

35 posted on 03/21/2018 9:56:41 AM PDT by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Flag burners can go screw -- I'm mighty PROUD of that ragged old flag)
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To: dsc

Bolt is to load the primer.


36 posted on 03/21/2018 10:00:06 AM PDT by Hillbilly sage
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To: treetopsandroofs

“Three of four respondents at the article expressed their pleasure that this occurred.”

Now 4 of 7, and all women, if their avatars are to be believed.


37 posted on 03/21/2018 10:00:52 AM PDT by VMI70
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To: w1n1

After reading the article, it appears the experts do not know why the barrel exploded. I have about 15 traditional front loading, cap or flint ignited black powder weapons. Been doing this since 1976.

I have double loaded (twice the powder) many times. I learned from articles written by the guy that founded Dixie Gun works. True blackpowder burns so slow, that if overloaded, the excess will just spits out the barrel. I have proven this by observing the little black specks that land on snow after doing this.

That same Dixie Gun Works expert also said never load modern smokeless powder or the barrel will explode.

I suspect this is the cause, whether be in intentional, or by mistake.

The weapon shown appears to be a modern inline. I’ve never owned one as I think they are not true to the sport. But, I have also learned their barrels are made of a more modern steel designed to take greater pressures. I really think this guy used too much of the wrong powder.


38 posted on 03/21/2018 10:01:44 AM PDT by redfreedom
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

Sharp’s .54 buffalo gun or Hawkin .54. Granted the Sharp’s is a combustible cartridge breech loader.


39 posted on 03/21/2018 10:05:03 AM PDT by bravo whiskey (Never bring a liberal gun law to a gun fight.)
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To: VMI70

https://twitter.com/sher1211

A loon.


40 posted on 03/21/2018 10:05:42 AM PDT by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (God punishes Conservatives by making them argue with fools. Go Trump!)
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