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VANITY: Looking to dump Gmail for something more data-safe
My addled brain | 04/09/2018 | Myself

Posted on 04/09/2018 7:43:00 AM PDT by Spacetrucker

In light of the data issues that have been publicized as of late, I am seriously looking to dump Gmail, Fakebook, et. al., would like some suggestions for other email services that I would have less concern about my data being taken. I already use DuckDuckGo, so that part is good.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Computers/Internet; Miscellaneous; Reference
KEYWORDS: email; enigmail; facebook; gmail; google; spyware; thunderbird
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To: dfwgator; Red Badger

TY RB for answering ;) Glad I’m not the only one who is aware of it :)

Also, Thunderbird is free.


21 posted on 04/09/2018 8:05:32 AM PDT by Bikkuri
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To: Bikkuri

It's free?........................

22 posted on 04/09/2018 8:08:57 AM PDT by Red Badger (The people who call Trump a tyrant are the same people who want the president to confiscate weapons.)
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To: Red Badger

Hehe.. don’t we wish it was that simple ;^D


23 posted on 04/09/2018 8:10:09 AM PDT by Bikkuri
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To: Spacetrucker

Protonmail is the answer to secure email. There are free accounts and paid accounts depending on what you are looking for.

https://protonmail.com

There is also Tutanota, I haven’t used it yet but plan to to compare it to Protonmail. Tutanota is free.

https://tutanota.com


24 posted on 04/09/2018 8:23:00 AM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: Spacetrucker

I recently switched to TorGuard. I’d also recommend Reagan.com


25 posted on 04/09/2018 8:23:06 AM PDT by Buckeye Battle Cry (Progressivism is socialism. Venezuela is how it ends.)
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To: willyd

Not necessarily so. Encryption simply prevents prying eyes while mail is in transit. WhatsApp and Skype have interesting owners now.

Email is not a reliable protocol like HTML. Look it up, it means something other than what you might think.

You can avoid your helpful host harvesting all your stuff. You do understand the concept of FREE EMAIL, right?

1. Own your own domain.
2. Have a host you can trust and pay for that privilege.
3. Pick your email engine carefully in consultation with your host. This is more important than you think.

Round numbers, my host charges me about $120 per year for unlimited accounts, managing spam, watching for runaways (compromised users), and tech support which I rarely need now. Domain renewals and fees add a little more. You get what you pay for.

Otherwise, may I suggest FAX? It’s point-to-point and as secure as each endpoint is, unless you have someone listening in with a warrant or a snoop in the office.


26 posted on 04/09/2018 8:27:35 AM PDT by IgnaciKat
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To: Spacetrucker

Why not just add multi factor authentication to your gmail account.


27 posted on 04/09/2018 8:37:07 AM PDT by pas
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To: free_life

https://www.emailprivacytester.com


28 posted on 04/09/2018 8:47:58 AM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: Bikkuri
Get Thunderbird and install add-on named Enigmail (encryption). As long as you use Enigmail, they can’t see anything ;^)

This...

29 posted on 04/09/2018 9:03:25 AM PDT by Noumenon (It isn't racist if it's true, is it?)
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To: Spacetrucker

Bkmrk.


30 posted on 04/09/2018 9:26:07 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear
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To: Elderberry

I have a question. You said that since you registered your own domain that no matter what service you use that with forwarding, your address will never change. Please explain how that works for you. Thanks.


31 posted on 04/09/2018 9:39:48 AM PDT by Apple Pan Dowdy (... as American as Apple Pie)
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To: Spacetrucker

ProtonMail linked with Thunderbird.
Even NSA won’t be able to break it with good passwords and servers are in Switzerland so outside reach of USA.


32 posted on 04/09/2018 9:41:04 AM PDT by Zathras
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To: Spacetrucker

Another vote for ProntoMail. Yes, they have apps. Speaking of apps. If you have smartphones, use Signal as your text message app. Encrypted, just like ProntoMail is.

Of course, I don’t know if that will stop google from seeing everything on an android device, since it’s their operating system.

KDE is working on open source phones. Nexus phones for now but others later. They’re not building hardware and it won’t come pre-installed. You basically have to jaiilbreak the phone and then wipe it and then install Plasma Mobile. I have no idea what kind of apps it will be able to run. Haven’t looked at it that much. Still in Beta.


33 posted on 04/09/2018 10:20:04 AM PDT by Pollard (If you don't understand what I typed, you haven't read the classics.)
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To: Spacetrucker

Fastmail.com

An Australian company. You pay for it, and they don’t sell your data. TANSTAAFL. I’ve used them for about ten years. Great outfit, good value for the money.


34 posted on 04/09/2018 11:46:13 AM PDT by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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To: Spacetrucker

“Gmail” does not provide your your basic Internet service. That is provided by some true “Internet Service Provider”, like a telco, cable company and the like, not Google.

Most Internet Service Providers DO provide at least one free Email address via their services (like johndoe@verizon.net).

Recognize that and claim that Email address, but don’t necessarily use their website/browser from of access with it.

Use an Email-client product - like Thunderbird from Mozilla, and set up a “POP” account in Thunderbird for your Internet Service Providers Email address they let you have. If you have used Outlook from Microsoft, the third party Email-client applications like Thunderbird work very similar to Outlook.

You can set up a POP account so it (a) tells your Internet Service Provider’s system it is logging in to your Email account, (b) asks your Internet Service Provider’s system to send your Email to your Email-client application on your PC (or mobile device), and (c) if you choose, tells the Internet Service Provider’s system to delete from its servers all the Email it just passed you to. You don’t even need to keep “Contacts” and the like with your Internet Service Provider. They can be kept in files belonging to your Email-Client application, on your PC/mobile device. In all I have described as possible, at no time was anything done with the user using their Internet browser application to go and sit, and work, on the Internet Service Providers live, online Email web pages. The work between the Email-client application and the system of the Internet Service provider is all done in the background.

I have also found the systems of the Internet Service providers have been hacked into less often than the systems hosted by the likes of Yahoo and Gmail. What is the pity is neither Yahoo or Gmail are necessary. ANYTHING that is accessible via the Internet, is as a “location independent” (does not matter where you are) as stinkin Yahoo or Gmail.


35 posted on 04/09/2018 12:50:51 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: dhs12345

Just because you have an Android phone does not mean you are required to have a Gmail account.


36 posted on 04/09/2018 12:51:45 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: Slyfox

Why?


37 posted on 04/09/2018 12:52:04 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: Red Badger

“Enigmail is free software. It can be freely used, modified and distributed under the terms of the Mozilla Public License.”

1. Can you choose, Email by Email to encrypt or not encrypt your messages. (I would assume that if I did encrypt an Email, the recipient would likely need Enigmail in their Email app/apps in order to decrypt an encrypted Email I sent them.)

2. Can you send and/or receive messages not encrypted, that is not encrypted at all.


38 posted on 04/09/2018 12:56:53 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: Wuli

I don’t know either answer, since I do not use it.

Try here:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/enigmail/versions/


39 posted on 04/09/2018 1:01:43 PM PDT by Red Badger (The people who call Trump a tyrant are the same people who want the president to confiscate weapons.)
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To: Wuli

Only way to get the app updates and access to the apps. I am using an old decommissioned android cell phone to control stuff around the house and listen to music. I created a dummy gmail acct. I stripped all personal information too.

You either need an email account or phone number otherwise the phone is a door stop.


40 posted on 04/09/2018 1:02:18 PM PDT by dhs12345
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