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The Foundersí Lesson On Gun Control
The Coach's Team ^ | 4/15/18 | KrisAnne Hall

Posted on 04/15/2018 8:03:28 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax

What many citizens and legislators do not understand is that the federal government has no right to prevent any law-abiding citizen from owning or possessing ANY firearm. The entire argument for gun control is built upon a false premise. The second amendment is not about self-defense from criminals.

As unpleasant as it may be for this modern society to say out loud, historically and constitutionally speaking, the right of the people to keep and bear arms has always been a right to protect yourself from those in power who want to enslave you. If America wants to engage in a real factual debate on the right to keep and bear arms, then it must be approached from the proper perspective.

The Constitution and its history are unequivocally clear on this.

Here is a short, 2nd Amendment history lesson so we can defend our Rights from becoming government-bestowed privileges.

Everything we need to know about the 2nd Amendment was explained by our founders in the years 1787-1788. Lesson one comes from George Mason, referred to as “Father of the Bill of Rights.” Mason first explains the REASON we are to bear arms, and guess what; it has nothing to do with hunting and skeet shooting…or fighting attackers.

“Forty years ago, when the resolution of enslaving America was formed in Great Britain, the British Parliament was advised by an artful man, (Sir William Keith) who was governor of Pennsylvania, to disarm the people; that it was the best and most effectual way to enslave them; but that they should not do it openly, but weaken them, and let them sink gradually...

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1 posted on 04/15/2018 8:03:28 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax
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To: Oldpuppymax

Gotta love KrisAnne Hall. Thanks for posting.


2 posted on 04/15/2018 8:09:20 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Oldpuppymax

“A free people ought not only to be armed, but disciplined...”
- George Washington, First Annual Address, to both House of Congress, January 8, 1790

“No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms.”
- Thomas Jefferson, Virginia Constitution, Draft 1, 1776

“I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery.”
- Thomas Jefferson, letter to James Madison, January 30, 1787

“What country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance. Let them take arms.”
- Thomas Jefferson, letter to James Madison, December 20, 1787

“The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes.... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.”
- Thomas Jefferson, Commonplace Book (quoting 18th century criminologist Cesare Beccaria), 1774-1776

“A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises, I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. Games played with the ball, and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind. Let your gun therefore be your constant companion of your walks.” - Thomas Jefferson, letter to Peter Carr, August 19, 1785

“The Constitution of most of our states (and of the United States) assert that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves; that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed.”
- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to John Cartwright, 5 June 1824

“On every occasion [of Constitutional interpretation] let us carry ourselves back to the time when the Constitution was adopted, recollect the spirit manifested in the debates, and instead of trying [to force] what meaning may be squeezed out of the text, or invented against it, [instead let us] conform to the probable one in which it was passed.”
- Thomas Jefferson, letter to William Johnson, 12 June 1823

“I enclose you a list of the killed, wounded, and captives of the enemy from the commencement of hostilities at Lexington in April, 1775, until November, 1777, since which there has been no event of any consequence ... I think that upon the whole it has been about one half the number lost by them, in some instances more, but in others less. This difference is ascribed to our superiority in taking aim when we fire; every soldier in our army having been intimate with his gun from his infancy.”
- Thomas Jefferson, letter to Giovanni Fabbroni, June 8, 1778

“They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.”
- Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759

“To disarm the people...[i]s the most effectual way to enslave them.”
- George Mason, referencing advice given to the British Parliament by Pennsylvania governor Sir William Keith, The Debates in the Several State Conventions on the Adooption of the Federal Constitution, June 14, 1788

“I ask who are the militia? They consist now of the whole people, except a few public officers.”
- George Mason, Address to the Virginia Ratifying Convention, June 4, 1788

“Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed, as they are in almost every country in Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops.”
- Noah Webster, An Examination of the Leading Principles of the Federal Constitution, October 10, 1787

“Besides the advantage of being armed, which the Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation, the existence of subordinate governments, to which the people are attached, and by which the militia officers are appointed, forms a barrier against the enterprises of ambition, more insurmountable than any which a simple government of any form can admit of.”
- James Madison, Federalist No. 46, January 29, 1788

“The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. A well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the best and most natural defense of a free country.”
- James Madison, I Annals of Congress 434, June 8, 1789

“...the ultimate authority, wherever the derivative may be found, resides in the people alone...”
- James Madison, Federalist No. 46, January 29, 1788

“Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.”
- William Pitt (the Younger), Speech in the House of Commons, November 18, 1783

“A militia when properly formed are in fact the people themselves…and include, according to the past and general usuage of the states, all men capable of bearing arms… “To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms, and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them.”
- Richard Henry Lee, Federal Farmer No. 18, January 25, 1788

“Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are ruined.... The great object is that every man be armed. Everyone who is able might have a gun.”
- Patrick Henry, Speech to the Virginia Ratifying Convention, June 5, 1778

“This may be considered as the true palladium of liberty.... The right of self defense is the first law of nature: in most governments it has been the study of rulers to confine this right within the narrowest limits possible. Wherever standing armies are kept up, and the right of the people to keep and bear arms is, under any color or pretext whatsoever, prohibited, liberty, if not already annihilated, is on the brink of destruction.”
- St. George Tucker, Blackstone’s Commentaries on the Laws of England, 1803

“The supposed quietude of a good man allures the ruffian; while on the other hand, arms, like law, discourage and keep the invader and the plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as well as property. The balance ofpower is the scale of peace. The same balance would be preserved were all the world destitute of arms, for all would be alike; but since some will not, others dare not lay them aside. And while a single nation refuses to lay them down, it is proper that all should keep them up. Horrid mischief would ensue were one-half the world deprived of the use of them; for while avarice and ambition have a place in the heart of man, the weak will become a prey to the strong. The history of every age and nation establishes these truths, and facts need but little arguments when they prove themselves.”
- Thomas Paine, “Thoughts on Defensive War” in Pennsylvania Magazine, July 1775

“The Constitution shall never be construed to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms.”
- Samuel Adams, Massachusetts Ratifying Convention, 1788

“The right of the citizens to keep and bear arms has justly been considered, as the palladium of the liberties of a republic; since it offers a strong moral check against the usurpation and arbitrary power of rulers; and will generally, even if these are successful in the first instance, enable the people to resist and triumph over them.”
- Joseph Story, Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States, 1833

“What, Sir, is the use of a militia? It is to prevent the establishment of a standing army, the bane of liberty .... Whenever Governments mean to invade the rights and liberties of the people, they always attempt to destroy the militia, in order to raise an army upon their ruins.”
- Rep. Elbridge Gerry of Massachusetts, I Annals of Congress 750, August 17, 1789

“For it is a truth, which the experience of ages has attested, that the people are always most in danger when the means of injuring their rights are in the possession of those of whom they entertain the least suspicion.”
- Alexander Hamilton, Federalist No. 25, December 21, 1787

“If the representatives of the people betray their constituents, there is then no resource left but in the exertion of that original right of self-defense which is paramount to all positive forms of government, and which against the usurpations of the national rulers, may be exerted with infinitely better prospect of success than against those of the rulers of an individual state. In a single state, if the persons intrusted with supreme power become usurpers, the different parcels, subdivisions, or districts of which it consists, having no distinct government in each, can take no regular measures for defense. The citizens must rush tumultuously to arms, without concert, without system, without resource; except in their courage and despair.”
- Alexander Hamilton, Federalist No. 28

“[I]f circumstances should at any time oblige the government to form an army of any magnitude that army can never be formidable to the liberties of the people while there is a large body of citizens, little, if at all, inferior to them in discipline and the use of arms, who stand ready to defend their own rights and those of their fellow-citizens. This appears to me the only substitute that can be devised for a standing army, and the best possible security against it, if it should exist.”
- Alexander Hamilton, Federalist No. 28, January 10, 1788

“As civil rulers, not having their duty to the people before them, may attempt to tyrannize, and as the military forces which must be occasionally raised to defend our country, might pervert their power to the injury of their fellow citizens, the people are confirmed by the article in their right to keep and bear their private arms.”
- Tench Coxe, Philadelphia Federal Gazette, June 18, 1789

https://www.buckeyefirearms.org/gun-quotations-founding-fathers


3 posted on 04/15/2018 8:23:00 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: Oldpuppymax

Agreed in principle, however, long before government was to be instituted, man possessed thre right to protect himself and his against any and all sorts of crimes against himself, his family and his property.

Remember, government are created to protect the rights of all citizens/stakeholders, but the ends of government are not always true. Then, man has the right and need to protect himself from his government


4 posted on 04/15/2018 8:33:27 AM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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To: Oldpuppymax

Remembering that it would take hundreds of centuries for American criminals, even with a few Adam Lanzas and Nikolas Cruzes thrown in, to equal the millions murdered by governments that disarmed its’ citizens in just the last one.


5 posted on 04/15/2018 8:35:35 AM PDT by OttawaFreeper ("If I had to go to war again, I'd bring lacrosse players" Conn Smythe)
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To: Oldpuppymax
Here is a short, 2nd Amendment history lesson so we can defend our Rights from becoming government-bestowed privileges.

TOO LATE

The so called Brady background check changed a right to a privilege. You have to ask and be granted the government's permission to buy a firearm. To exercise a right you don't have to ask anyone's permission.

6 posted on 04/15/2018 8:38:29 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: Oldpuppymax

Very good. It also lays out the reason we must go on offense and attack and force total repeal of the NFA of 1934 and the GCA of 1968. Our government has full automatic weapons yet we have allowed them to ban these arms from the American people. The force must be equal but it has not been since we allowed the effective repeal of the second amendment with the passage of the national firearms act of 1934. All gun control is rooted in this first sweeping law. We must be armed as our government is armed.


7 posted on 04/15/2018 8:40:42 AM PDT by precisionshootist
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To: Manly Warrior

Not long ago, after the Parkland shooting, when there were many 2A discussions going on a FReeper posted something i’ll probably never forget. I wish i could remember who it was, and i kick myself for not replying to this day. It went something like this...

“The second amendment is about KILLING PEOPLE. Specifically, it is about killing a certain kind of people. Politicians who would become tyrants, the standing armies and police forces they might create and control, and those who support them.”

Spot on.

~W


8 posted on 04/15/2018 8:50:55 AM PDT by wheresmyusa (A knight without armor in a savage land...)
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To: Bob434

“I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery.”

That’s going on some T shirts, fer sure!


9 posted on 04/15/2018 9:09:35 AM PDT by polymuser (Its terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged today. - Chesterton)
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“Spot on.”

Nuts.


10 posted on 04/15/2018 9:14:35 AM PDT by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: Oldpuppymax

Bookmark


11 posted on 04/15/2018 9:30:54 AM PDT by Inyo-Mono
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To: KrisKrinkle

Your tagline is chock full of irony if that’s not a Bastogne reference.

~W


12 posted on 04/15/2018 9:31:29 AM PDT by wheresmyusa (A knight without armor in a savage land...)
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To: Oldpuppymax

bee triple-T


13 posted on 04/15/2018 9:56:54 AM PDT by CGVet58 (God has Granted us Liberty, and we owe Him our Courage in return)
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To: wheresmyusa
The tagline is as applicable to me as it is to anyone else.

And I did think about Bastogne.

If it is "spot on" that

“The second amendment is about KILLING PEOPLE. Specifically, it is about killing a certain kind of people. Politicians who would become tyrants, the standing armies and police forces they might create and control, and those who support them.”

Then it would be justifiable to go about killing a certain kind of people, who would become tyrants, and the forces they might control without regard to what they have actually done or attempted. In other words, kill people for what they might do. I don't believe that's what the Second Amendment "is about".

14 posted on 04/15/2018 10:09:27 AM PDT by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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Wow nice twist job. Now tell us what the definition of “is” is. Sheesh..

~W


15 posted on 04/15/2018 10:39:01 AM PDT by wheresmyusa (A knight without armor in a savage land...)
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To: Oldpuppymax

The Second Amendment is absolute, but they will never teach that in School.

The result of propaganda masquerading as Education in this Country will only hasten the death of the Republic.


16 posted on 04/15/2018 10:45:20 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative ( An Amed Scoiety is a Polite Society. An Unarmed Society is North Korea.)
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How many of you have an old 1982 copy of this government book, THE RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS. I have one. It has been suppressed since it’s publication. The court cases from the early 1800s are worth their weight in gold. This is only part of it as the pro and anti-gun rebuttals are not included.

https://olis.leg.state.or.us/liz/2015R1/Downloads/CommitteeMeetingDocument/68101


17 posted on 04/15/2018 10:51:25 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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“IS, verb intransitive iz. [Latin est.] The third person singular of the substantive verb, which is composed of three or four distinct roots, which appear in the words am, be, are, and is is and was coincide with the Latin esse, and Goth.wesan. In the indicative, present tense, it is thus varied; I am, thou art, he, she, or it, is; we, ye or you, they, are. In writing and speaking, the vowel is often dropped; as, he’s gone; there’s none left.” (Noah Webster’s 1828 dictionary.)


18 posted on 04/15/2018 10:53:17 AM PDT by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: wheresmyusa

I went through my history to that fateful day hoping it was me.

But I’m going to remember that line, and keep it in my toolbox.

Because we don’t like to talk that way, but the left does. The left constantly thinks that the second amendment is there to kill their precious government officials. Dan Malloy thought so and told us so in front of cameras even if it was accidentally.


19 posted on 04/15/2018 1:15:27 PM PDT by Celerity
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To: Oldpuppymax

Thanks for posting...

Can’t be repeated or explained and hammered home too much or too often...

The Second Amendment is a warning to any would-be tyrants we the people retain the right and means, when all peaceful attempts at redress fail, to shoot them...


20 posted on 04/15/2018 4:15:49 PM PDT by elteemike (Light travels faster than sound...That's why so many people appear bright until you hear them speak)
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