Posted on 05/15/2018 9:47:05 AM PDT by Perseverando
Me too. I have done a bit of compliance testing. All consumer but I did see an EMP test lab once. It was a huge warehouse and they could drive in vehicles, etc. Very interesting. I bet that they had some fun parties. :)
I mean seriously, a 10-30kt Nork or Shiite nuke isn't going to send us back to the 1800s. Hell even the 440-550kt Russian nukes won't be wasted on air burst unless its over Kitsap, Kings Bay, Site R, Pentagon, or LCC/missile fields. Pure melodrama.
I'm a lot more prepped for ice storms, earthquakes, civil disturbances than EMP in my AO. I have a lot of ham radio gear.....my faraday cage? .50 cal. and 40mm Mk19 ammo cans.
.....and as a former 35D/35E and working with DOE/NNSA/OST with TS/SCI & the L & Q (CNWDI) clearances lets me not panic or even worry much about EMP.
Right now I'm prepping for killing House sparrows as they are disturbing my eastern bluebird nests on the farm. If EMP gets me....at least I can eat sparrows.
Me and my family's death by EMP ranks right up there with meteor falling on our house or being attacked by a bunch of rabid raccoons at a pool party.
Operation Fishbowl provided the scientific evidence. The Soviets knew this before we did, or maybe were interested in it before we were. American scientists noticed the effects but saw it more as a nuisance.
Also, does it become conducted or radiated or both. Like lightning.
And there are different levels of susceptibility:
1. is the device affected.
2. is the device affected but can it reboot and recover automatically.
3. is the device affected and is not able to recover and requires human intervention to get running again.
4. is the device permanently damaged and replacement/repair is necessary.
2-4 are not desirable. #2 might sound okay but what happens while the device is offline and rebooting and recalibrating? Not good if you are in a car cruising down the highway at 60 mph.
I consider the number of above ground and ground level nuclear tests conducted in just nevada in the 50’s and 60’s ......... not a laptop or smartphone was destroyed. < / sarcasm>
That said I was stationed at Kirtland AFB NM where the EMP test bed (the wooden trestle) was. Drove by it every day to work within 200 yards, saw multiple items that were being tested from planes, trains and automobiles to five gallon buckets full of whatever .......
Always thought EMP was a probable threat due the money and effort spent on just that wooden trestle alone.
Follow the money. EMP experts are part of the swamp.
This pretty much kills the credibility of anything that comes after.
As I read it, the author was quoting an EMP denier. If you read on, she attempts to give somewhat of a brief but balanced analysis of a potential EMP threat. Being a diehard prepper, she doesn't put all her eggs in the EMP basket, but allows for power grid problems of varying degrees from other sources.
I have a lot more to worry about than an EMP.....Like how i am going to survive after i turn 75 in 24 yrs without at least 2 mill in the bank....says the money guys on AM radio.
At the moment i’m about about .005% there.
THAT is what is worrying me..
EMP is BOTH an Elaborate Threat, as well as a Legitimate Hoax.
OK, that makes sense because the statement seemed out of place with what the rest of the excerpt said. I always thought EMP was a pretty accepted phenomenon but I don’t know enough about the science of the subject to opine on it.
During my years in the Army in the 70s and 80s, the EMP threat was to the transistors in our radios and whatever is the modern equivalent in computers, cell phones & etc. we were told to pull our radios out of their racks and turn them off if we got warning that a nuke strike was imminent.
We were also told that radios and similar equipment with old fashioned vacuum tubes were not affected by EMP when a nuke went off because of the older technology.
The ridiculous level of centralization of our power grid means that even if EMP is over-rated, it doesn’t have to be that much to throw the power grid into a tailspin.
I have a relative who has been with Duke Energy for many years. When he and I were talking he said the centralization of the power grid and the poor level of training and supervision of the people running it is frightening.
Exactly.
Issue exists but way over hyped.
The geometries of modern silicon are getting smaller and smaller so it seems that it would require a higher frequency to affect the gate of the transistor or substrate or whatever is damaged in an EMP. But I am not a chip designer. But it seems like modern electronics would be less susceptible for many reasons.
However, if I were going to design an EMP device, I would design something that is targeted vs a brute force blast.
This is where a directed EMP device might be affective — aim it at an incoming missile, drone, etc. to affect its nav system or other electronics.
“Certainly they were at the time of abhorrent and immoral destruction of Hiroshima and Nagasaki,“
Daisy is an idiot.
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A very real threat which we are not taking anywhere near seriously enough.
Yep, it’s scary to think that we are dependent on unmotivated, poorly educated millenials who suffer from excess self esteem and entitilement. (Don’t they call that “an Obama complex?”)
Hey, I think I just coined a new psychiatric condition.
Daisy is an idiot.
Better read that again. She is just quoting someone else. She prefaces that quote with:
"After reading numerous reports from the Congressional EMP Commission, I figured that the reality of such a threat was a given. So when I recently wrote about making Faraday cages, imagine my surprise when I saw this comment:"
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