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Encountering a Liberal Second Amendment Supporter in Deep Blue Madison, Wisconsin
Gun Watch ^ | 21 May, 2018 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 05/21/2018 5:25:16 AM PDT by marktwain



I have been busy helping pick up the pieces after the death of a friend of 48 years. For the last few days, I ate breakfast at a McDonalds in Middleton, Wisconsin, part of the far left liberal environs centered around Dane County and Madison, Wisconsin.  My friend had lived most of his life in Madison and Middleton. He was a lifelong Second Amendment supporter, lifetime master pistol shooter, and a mentor.

At the McDonalds, I struck up conversation with a gentleman who I suspected to be a liberal. We had a connection because he was searching for information on friends who had recently died in Australia. I had recently been in Australia and have investigative experience.

I said I was a writer. On the second day, he asked what I wrote. I described Gun Watch. His demeanor softened a little. He described himself as a liberal gun owner.

The third day, he introduced his wife. They both had Wisconsin concealed carry permits. He showed a video of using tannerite to recreationally blow up targets in Northern Wisconsin. He introduced me to another member of his McDonalds breakfast group who was a retired Navy Captain.

Even in deep blue Madison, Wisconsin, there are significant numbers of Second Amendment supporters. Many of them are keeping their heads down because they believe they are surrounded by anti-Second Amendment leftists.

What they do in the polling booth may be different than what they admit to in public.

They may be part of the invisible Trump voters who helped put President Trump over the top in Wisconsin and other mid-west states.

Was my new found acquaintance one of them? It is hard to say. He sounded as though he had an open mind. He is bright. He is informed. Could he have voted against Hillary?

It seems likely to me.

It was obvious to both of us that he did not want his picture associated with this article. I said I expected he did not want his picture taken. He said I was exactly correct. He took mine, instead.

Second Amendment supporters in deep blue areas fear becoming known publicly. Social Justice Warriors often wish them harm. 

These people may support Second Amendment candidates.  Other Second Amendment supporters should encourage them to, at minimum, vote to protect the Bill of Rights.


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TOPICS: Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; madison; nra; secondamendment; wi; wisconsin
Who would have thought that people in the United States, who support the Constitution, would hide their identities out of fear of harassment by extremist mobs?
1 posted on 05/21/2018 5:25:17 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Can we stop with the ‘red/blue’ designations?
Before AlGore the Democrats were always commie-red


2 posted on 05/21/2018 5:34:27 AM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing Obamacare is worse than Obamacare itself.)
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To: marktwain

“Who would have thought that people in the United States, who support the Constitution, would hide their identities out of fear of harassment by extremist mobs?”

Your thinking dates back to the pre-Clinton (Bill) era.

The same question could be asked of the average German population during the Brown Shirt era. I wondered how many Germans gave up their guns for the common good?

A good explanation could be social compliance.

Regardless, it happens.


3 posted on 05/21/2018 5:35:37 AM PDT by redfreedom
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To: marktwain

Sounds more like a conservative lying low.

Any actual liberal is in a state of class warfare with the despised bitter clinger deplorables of which I am one. The progressive agenda is stymied by those who disagree & who own guns.

If he’s a classical liberal who believes all views should be allowed freedom of expression, well, that’s like a heterosexual calling himself “gay” because he happens to have a sunny nature that’s lighthearted & carefree.

Or like any “atheist” I have met who after a few questions admits to being agnostic & in search of proof of a supreme Being, the existence of which he does not rule out.

I will allow that a truly tolerant liberal will feel alone among those who feel that dissenting views should be crushed.


4 posted on 05/21/2018 5:38:18 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam. Buy ammo.")
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To: Mr. K

“Can we stop with the ‘red/blue’ designations?
Before AlGore the Democrats were always commie-red.”

I always thought it was rather telling, or at least interesting that red on tactical battle maps always denoted the enemy, and blue always denoted the friendly’s. I think there’s a connection, or at least I always imagined that the connection existed.


5 posted on 05/21/2018 5:43:17 AM PDT by Clutch Martin (Hot sauce aside, every culture has its pancakes, just as every culture has its noodle.)
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To: elcid1970

Being from Connecticut I understand this “liberal gun owner” bu11sh1ttery.

He’s a northeast conservative. One of those “.. But...” Americans who lie to everyone, themselves included.

He’s a traitor.


6 posted on 05/21/2018 5:43:56 AM PDT by Celerity
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To: marktwain

“Even in deep blue Madison, Wisconsin, there are significant numbers of Second Amendment supporters. Many of them are keeping their heads down because they believe they are surrounded by anti-Second Amendment leftists.”

I was one - lived in Dane County for many, many years. We ARE without number - we just won’t talk about it. The Socialists ARE that vicious in, ‘The People’s Republik of Madistan.’

When Bush/Cheney ran the first time, I was working in Madistan and NAIVELY made the mistake of having their bumper sticker on my car. It was vandalized - the sticker AND my car.

I moved a county away - best decision I’ve ever made. Ever.


7 posted on 05/21/2018 5:46:18 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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To: marktwain; PROCON

PING!


8 posted on 05/21/2018 5:47:57 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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To: Clutch Martin

IIRC, the blue/red switcheroo occurred during the 1980 Presidential campaign when the three networks (all there was then) decided to depict the electoral map with states going for Jimmah Carter in blue, and states for Ronald Reagan in red.

John Chancellor or somebody said later the networks did not want the color red associated with the Democrat party because of its communistic associations (flags of USSR, China, North Vietnam) and felt red was more appropriate for the going-Republican southern states as it symbolized red clay & backwardness. True story.


9 posted on 05/21/2018 5:58:05 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam. Buy ammo.")
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To: Diana in Wisconsin; marktwain; mylife; Joe Brower; MaxMax; Randy Larsen; waterhill; Envisioning; ...

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10 posted on 05/21/2018 6:09:53 AM PDT by PROCON (Man-made climate change is failed science based on fraudulent data = Climate Scientology)
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To: marktwain

“Social Justice Warriors often wish them harm. “

The Left hates us.

They want us dead.

Plan accordingly.

L


11 posted on 05/21/2018 6:42:49 AM PDT by Lurker (President Trump isn't our last chance. President Trump is THEIR last chance.)
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To: marktwain

The key word is “liberal”. In the end he WILL vote for DemocRats who will try to destroy the Second Amendment.


12 posted on 05/21/2018 7:01:18 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Conservatives love America for what it is. Liberals hate America for the same reason.)
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To: Mr. K
Can we stop with the ‘red/blue’ designations?
Before AlGore the Democrats were always commie-red

We'll have about as much luck with that as getting the word "gay" back to meaning happy, or getting the rainbow back as God's promise.

13 posted on 05/21/2018 7:34:57 AM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: Clutch Martin
I always thought it was rather telling, or at least interesting that red on tactical battle maps always denoted the enemy, and blue always denoted the friendly’s. I think there’s a connection, or at least I always imagined that the connection existed.

Well, it WAS a media creation, and the way THEY are...we are their enemy.

14 posted on 05/21/2018 7:37:10 AM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: elcid1970

Amazingly revealing. I had never heard that John Chancellor story. I do remember visiting the United States Military Academy at West Point and at that young age noticing the Blues in the Reds on the battle maps historically displaying troop movements and positioning. When the colors for the Democrats and Republicans came out as red and blue States, I immediately remembered my visit to the United States Military Academy at West Point and those Maps.

Another thing that I noticed was that the United States Military Academy at West Point, has many statues of many generals and not a few during the Civil War period. the Revelation I had as I walked around the grounds looking at the statuary Was that there were no confederate general statues even though they had been West Point graduates for the most part. Being raised in the south I never really thought about the Civil War in that context before. But the North and the South were enemies and sadly it was more than the old brother versus brother analogy. It was bloodlust and Kill Them All.


15 posted on 05/21/2018 7:51:55 AM PDT by Clutch Martin (Hot sauce aside, every culture has its pancakes, just as every culture has its noodle.)
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To: marktwain

And crying and wailing about their abortion “rights” being violated. We’ve come a long way down the primrose path haven’t we?


16 posted on 05/21/2018 8:35:29 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Diana, I’m still living in Madison, and carry concealed everyday.


17 posted on 05/21/2018 1:09:59 PM PDT by myerson
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To: myerson

Marry Me? ;)


18 posted on 05/21/2018 8:13:05 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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