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Why Both Sides Are Wrong About The NFL Kneeling Controversy
IWB ^ | Daniel Carter

Posted on 05/25/2018 4:44:34 PM PDT by davikkm

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To: Tallguy

It’s a contractual one.

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Notice that the NBA hasn’t had this problem. They have a rule in the league
rules that states the players must stand on the foul line or the line in front of
their bench during the National Anthem.

This is the NBA rules which are a part of each players contract they sign
to play in the NBA.


21 posted on 05/25/2018 5:33:19 PM PDT by deport
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To: davikkm

Way too late anyway. Pro football is dead to me. ESPN is getting nothing from me. Hope Her Keith Obhermann can save their bacon lol.


22 posted on 05/25/2018 5:34:14 PM PDT by Dogbert41 (When the strong man, fully armed, guards his own dwelling, his goods are safe. -Luke 11:21)
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To: Mr. K

It would be nice, but the left makes everything political. They just can’t help themselves or let anyone enjoy anything.


23 posted on 05/25/2018 5:34:15 PM PDT by Trillian
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To: davikkm

Anyone who thinks it’s a good idea to use his place of employment as a platform to stage a protest that has nothing to do with work conditions is dumber than a fart. It’s really that simple.


24 posted on 05/25/2018 5:34:16 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I saw a werewolf drinking a pina colada at Trader Vic's.")
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To: davikkm

They are free to protest....on their own time. A business owner should be able to set workplace rules.


25 posted on 05/25/2018 5:35:59 PM PDT by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: bankwalker
The owners are scared to death of locker room wars

They brought it on themselves. For decades they've tolerated criminals of all kinds on their teams.

26 posted on 05/25/2018 5:36:29 PM PDT by grania (President Trump, stop believing the Masters of War!)
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To: snoringbear

The title of this article is misleading—the author only presented one point of view: why conservatives are wrong.


27 posted on 05/25/2018 5:37:04 PM PDT by davandbar
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To: moovova
Nobody wins in this...we all lost when the NFL poofsters knelt during the anthem.

Especially those countless souls who made the supreme sacrifice defending that flag. F. Y. NFL!

28 posted on 05/25/2018 5:38:19 PM PDT by Don Corleone (Horse heads work!)
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To: Mr. K
NO POLITICS ON THE FIELD! How hard is that? People are not paying to see that. It’s not smart to annoy paying customers. You’re PAID ENTERTAINERS - not political activists. Do it on your own time, and I will support your right to 100%

Agreed, agreed, agreed.

29 posted on 05/25/2018 5:40:35 PM PDT by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. Support Israel.)
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To: davikkm

My take? STFU, get off your KNEES and play ball, ya trained monkeys! Entertain me!

Same goes for the Hollywood Crowd. WTF CARES what your ‘opionion’ is...about ANYTHING?


30 posted on 05/25/2018 5:41:00 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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To: davikkm
I certainly hope Investment Watch Blog is a big contributor to FreeRepublic.com for all the malarkey posted they must be making a fortune off the FR folks who click through.

Some time ago, I stopped.

I could be wrong but IWB writer never reads what we say. It's a hit farm taking traffic away from FreeRepublic.com It only pisses me off that I do support FR. Do You? Does IBDblog?

Have any of the 1998 dated accounts like mine actually watched this process where there's no money left to fund the site?

I can't actually increase my monthly right now. God Bless Jim and his team.

One of these days I be able to, and you can count on that.

31 posted on 05/25/2018 5:41:03 PM PDT by WhoisAlanGreenspan?
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To: rightwingcrazy

Just trying to get a word in edgewise. Many of the Black Narritive Stories are about Black Criminals who got caught and then lied about what happened. Hands Up Don’t Shoot was a complete fraud. And yet the black football players are trying to make political hay over the false narratives. The basic theme is to let Black Criminals get away with all sorts of crimes or else the Black agitators will pitch a hissy fit.


32 posted on 05/25/2018 5:41:22 PM PDT by Trumpet 1 (US Constitution is my guide.)
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To: Mr. K
Do it on your own time, and I will support your right to 100%

Exactly!

33 posted on 05/25/2018 5:42:32 PM PDT by libertylover (If people come here legally, they're immigrants; if they come here illegally, they're invaders.)
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To: davikkm
I just wanted to watch football. It was the one break from a reality where every single thing is about politics, race, open borders, sexual orientation, weather to eat meat or live your whole damn life eating kale.

Now even that's f---ed up and I refuse to watch anymore.

I hope everyone who kneeled during our nations nation anthem is happy when all their millions run out.

34 posted on 05/25/2018 5:44:54 PM PDT by Newbomb Turk (Hey Newbomb, where is your bothers ElCamino ?)
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To: davikkm
Why Daniel Carter is wrong.

The argument that we should be championing free speech in the NFL is false because freedom of speech is not the issue. I have no problem with the multi-millionaire prima donna's believing in a cause … any cause. Personally, I know my political views differ from my employer's, but unlike NFL Players, I am not on a nationally televised program designed to increase the revenues of my employer, but if I was, my employer would expect me to follow a corporate line regarding everything from how I dressed to how I acted to what I said whenever I was working in my capacity as an employee representing the company. Period. End.

Now, up until recently, nobody knew any players political views, because their game, which is what is being televised, for the purpose of making money for owners, television networks, and advertisers, not only did not require them to talk to the camera, it provided no opportunity to express any view about anything … with the possible exception of some sideline reporter asking a player about the game at hand. So what changed was that players stumbled upon a way to hijack what was being reported on. I say stumbled upon, because I honestly do not think CK was smart enough create all this by himself on purpose. I think the networks were the actual brains behind making this an issue because they were hoping that it would garner headlines and people would tune in, thus increasing ratings, so they could charge advertisers more, so they could pay the owners what they promised to pay them for the right to televise the games. What they did not take into account is what is often called the "law of unintended consequences". In short, a stunt to improve ratings turned into a polarizing agenda that turned fans away. I also believe the owners, at least initially, did not care one way or the other, because their contracts with the networks were fixed, so the network could do whatever they wanted to increase ratings … if this was a problem, it was THIER problem.

The players, emboldened by Obama's class warfare and support of BLM, decided that they SHOULD take up the torch, and become spokesmen for a cause that they actually knew little about and could not personally relate to, because ... you know, they are actually more privileged and richer than 99% of Americans. The team owner's, I think were OK with the stunt until they started to realize that instead of helping them earn more by increasing ratings, people were really turning away from their product, and vowing to never come back … and that is why we are finally seeing action from them. The owners are not trying to eliminate the free speech of the players … they are simply doing what every other employer does, and telling their employees that when on the clock, they represent the company, and if they want to be social activists, then can … but on their own time. The reason the owners are acting now, is because the impact on ratings can now be seen, and they know that soon they will need to renegotiate their network TV contracts, so they are fixing the problem the networks created before the contracts are up so they can ensure their next contract does not decrease in value.

Freedom of speech has nothing to do with it.
35 posted on 05/25/2018 5:45:09 PM PDT by RainMan (rainman)
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To: davikkm
two sides

I am on the "boycott all social justice warriors" side. Until Goodell is gone the NFL is dead to me.
36 posted on 05/25/2018 5:45:32 PM PDT by cgbg (Hidden behind the social justice warrior mask is corruption and sexual deviance.)
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To: davikkm

“But shouldn’t we be pressuring private companies to respect all our free speech.”

No, dumb-ox! The NFL is a business. I worked in the corporate world for 40 years. If I had pulled some kind of protest I would have been immediately shown the door and they would not have been nice about it. They may have kicked me in the rear-end on the way out of the door.


37 posted on 05/25/2018 5:46:15 PM PDT by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (+)
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To: davikkm

At least when we saw them taking a knee we knew who the leftwing SOBs were. I would rather know which players love and appreciate the country and which do not. I wonder if the cameras will turn to them when they’re exiting the locker room.


38 posted on 05/25/2018 5:46:31 PM PDT by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Iran Deal, Nukes: Click ETL)
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To: davikkm
does it really make sense to encourage the NFL to limit the players’ expression.

Dear nitwit.

The Players are free to express themselves while they off the job in anyway they see fit. While they are on the field they will express themselves in accordance with NFL guidelines.

JUST AS THEY HAVE HAD TO DO SINCE YEAR DOT.

It is what you do when you are at work, if you had ever held an actual job you would know things like this. Since you have been a leech on society I expect you do not.

When you are an employee the employer can tell you what to do, what to say, what to wear, what to eat, what to listen too and when you may go to the bathroom. They pay you for the privilege of doing so WHILE YOU ARE ON THE JOB.

What conservatives have actually objected to employers doing is telling employees what they may not say OUTSIDE OF WORK.

I hope this simple explaination will help you understand the actual issue rather then the stupid strawman that you were promoting.

Suggest that you go down to your local convenience store and apply and give up trying to write articles until you have become acquainted with reality.

Hugs and Kisses,

Your friend,
HTB

39 posted on 05/25/2018 5:52:24 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear ( Bunnies, bunnies, it must be bunnies!! Or maybe midgets....)
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To: davikkm

A bunch of illiterate idiots running into each other is a dumb game.


40 posted on 05/25/2018 5:56:47 PM PDT by Architect of Avalon
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