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Springfield XD-S: Is it the Best CCW Pistol?
Am Shooting Journal ^ | 6/27/2018 | J Hines

Posted on 06/27/2018 5:23:00 AM PDT by w1n1

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To: RandallFlagg

That’s cool. I have a 92 as well. If you can run a 92, you can run anything else, since everything else is simpler. But they do really suck in a dry dirty environment. Too many ways for dirt to get into the slide/frame interface.


41 posted on 06/27/2018 8:07:04 AM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them)
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To: Blueflag

The difference is that without a round in the chamber it won’t go bang.

Could be an equally fatal mistake.

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42 posted on 06/27/2018 8:32:12 AM PDT by infool7 (Observe, Orient, Pray, Decide, Act!(it's an OOPDA loop))
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To: infool7

Oh I agree.

I always carry with a round in the chamber. I confirm that before the pistol goes in the holster.


43 posted on 06/27/2018 8:34:14 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: non vehere est inermus)
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To: Blueflag
Our ladies can all FIRE the 45s, but cannot reasonably practice and master them.

Really?

Care to put your money where your mouth is?

My wife and two daughters have been trained by me on a Springfield Operator 1911.

They all three shoot a 1.8 inch group at 15 yards.

All three score in the high 90's in the simulation drills, with my youngest doing perfect scores on the timed Practical drills.

Don't tell me women can't master a 1911 in .45 caliber.

There isn't a woman alive that I cannot train to effectively deploy a full-size 1911 .45.

I will admit that both my daughters prefer the Officers Model Colt Defender...because of the weight...but it has little to do with the use of it, more because of the fact that 24 ounces of metal banging around in a hand bag or hanging off a waist is more comfortable than 39 ounces.

And they all carry Condition One...as in cocked, locked and ready.

My normal carry is a Defender...although I have recommended a Bersa Thunder .380 for some folks, based mainly on the fact that if a weapon is a pain for some to carry, then they will not carry...and any weapon is better than none.

And I do occasionally carry a .380, depending on the activity.

But I am well-trained...as in 20 years as an MP and 18 years of civil law enforcement.

But that just makes it easier to train others.

44 posted on 06/27/2018 8:49:30 AM PDT by OldSmaj (The only thing washed on a filthy liberal is their damned brains.)
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To: infool7


STATEMENT:

The cocked striker indicator pin sticking out the back of an XD is also an outstanding feature. If that pin is not sticking out, it can't be loaded. And you can feel it in the dark as well as see it, even in your holster. Pin is flush, chamber is empty, period.



REPLY:

That is the hammer indicator, the chamber indicator is on the top. The hammer indicator will be out if the hammer is cocked even if there is no round in the chamber.



This is why I carry a revolver.


45 posted on 06/27/2018 8:50:02 AM PDT by golux
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To: OldSmaj

Stand down Sergeant Major! ;-)

I trained my ladies first on P-220 .45, XDS .45, AR-15 223, and 12 gauge pump. An initial goal was to standardize on only three calibers.

It became apparent that repeatedly shooting the 45 was painful for my wife’s hands (age-appropriate arthritis) and my 21 YO daughter shot better with less recoil of the 9mm. She actually did fine with the P-220 (full frame) in 45, but not so much with the small frame XDS in 45.

In the end the goal is to have a firearm ON THEIR PERSON that they are safe, competent and comfortable with, AND can execute enough practice with.

And arguably, you have training skills I do not.

NET: they CARRY the XDS in 9mm, are safe and proficient with same. That is consistent with the Commander’s intent.


46 posted on 06/27/2018 9:05:49 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: non vehere est inermus)
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To: Flintlock

I have that AND the XDS Can’t beat the price and warranty of the SCCY!


47 posted on 06/27/2018 9:09:30 AM PDT by Renegade
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To: Travis McGee

I also have one of those with the night sights and with an Alien Gear holster consider it my most comfortable IWB carry.

In revolvers, I am partial to the LCRs. I have two, one in 38 with a great trigger action and one in 22 Mag to pair with a semi-auto rifle in 22mag.


48 posted on 06/27/2018 9:19:32 AM PDT by KC Burke (If all the world is a stage, I would like to request my lighting be adjusted.)
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To: afterhoursarmory

This stuff.

AMMO REVIEW: 9mm G2 SPEER GOLD DOT (FBI 2014 PRODUCTION)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZvkZRsVOMc


50 posted on 06/27/2018 10:10:20 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: snoringbear

My smallish daughter loves her S&W 9mm Shield.


51 posted on 06/27/2018 10:11:24 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: infool7

There is no “hammer” in an XD. As I said, it’s a cocked STRIKER indicator.

If the pin is protruding, the chamber might be loaded, or not. But if the pin is flush the chamber cannot is empty.

You are correct, there is also a LOADED CHAMBER indicator on top, but this is hidden when inside a holster.

The main thing is the protruding pin. If it’s down, the chamber is empty.


52 posted on 06/27/2018 10:13:23 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: golux
This is why I carry a revolver.

KYJim's Rules of Carry:
1. Any gun is better than no gun.
2. A gun that is reliable is better than a gun that is not.
3. A hole in the right place is better than a hole in the wrong place.
4. A bigger hole is a better hole.

Maybe 1a could be: A gun you know is better than a gun you don't know.

Jeff Cooper's Four Rules:
1. All guns are always loaded.
2. Never let the muzzle cover anything you are not willing to destroy.
3. Keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are on the target.
4. Be sure of your target and what is beyond it.

(I was corrected once when I accidentally left this off) Amen

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53 posted on 06/27/2018 10:33:57 AM PDT by infool7 (Observe, Orient, Pray, Decide, Act!(it's an OOPDA loop))
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To: w1n1

My Taurus PT-709 Slim, which is actually one inch think, is very concealable, and light-weight, as well.


54 posted on 06/27/2018 10:41:41 AM PDT by gigster (Cogito, Ergo, Ronaldus Magnus Conservatus)
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To: Travis McGee
Over Macho Grande?

Yes I apologize for the confusion.

I should have mentioned that I agreed with you first.

There cannot be a round in the chamber if the striker indicator is flush.

Then I used the wrong term hammer instead of striker. Striker STRIKER.

I only wanted to clarify that a protruding striker indicator does not necessarily in all cases indicate condition 0

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55 posted on 06/27/2018 11:05:40 AM PDT by infool7 (Observe, Orient, Pray, Decide, Act!(it's an OOPDA loop))
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To: Blueflag
That is consistent with the Commander’s intent.

And that is what matters.

Have a good freepin' day!

56 posted on 06/27/2018 1:11:53 PM PDT by OldSmaj (The only thing washed on a filthy liberal is their damned brains.)
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To: infool7

“There cannot be a round in the chamber if the striker indicator is flush. “

Well technically there could be if you had a misfire. You can also have the indicator out with nothing no live round in the chamber if you had a failure to eject or feed properly.


57 posted on 06/27/2018 1:25:49 PM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: OldSmaj

;-)

BLUEFLAGSENDS


58 posted on 06/27/2018 1:43:38 PM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: non vehere est inermus)
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The 92, to me, is one of the most sexy handguns ever made.
Yeah, I said it.
“Hear me now. Listen to me later!”
/Hans and Franz moment

But that’s not why I carry it.
Not because it was the hero’s sidearm from Lethal Weapon, Die Hard, or those other ‘80s movies.
Not because the American military mandated that it the the sidearm of our warriors.
But, simply because it works for what I need it to do.

I’m going to now place my fully loaded ‘92 on a scale and tell you this....

It is 43.8 ounces of backbone-hurtin’ awesome.
(I’m SO glad that I learned how to properly wear suspenders when I CCW this beast)


59 posted on 06/27/2018 3:38:44 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (They all get down, and arm up. Ready to take down tyrrany. The magnificient Seven.)
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To: Hoosier-Daddy

He might be, for all I know or care.


60 posted on 06/27/2018 4:42:38 PM PDT by HartleyMBaldwin
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