My sad mind about America

Jul 17, 2018 | Htrn

[Jamestown1630]

Well, you posted a vanity implicitly inviting the thoughts of others. If you didn’t like their thoughts, you could have ignored them or countered with a polite, reasoned argument instead of smartass rudeness.

[HiTech RedNeck]

Some folly deserves it. And I guess it stands as proof that I don’t need to be sad. There are sadder things yet. Good grief, the itty bitty bird is describing a hell even more diabolical than what God lets Satan cook up.

[Jamestown1630]

Well, I’m glad you’ve resolved everything in your mind.

Maybe it will only be 75 cycles, now.

[HiTech RedNeck]

How about infinity cycles for you scoffers eternally getting rebuked in the hell you refused a once for all salvation from?

[tinyowl]

Not Hindu and don't believe in reincarnation.

But I can tell you are very smart, make assumptions that you are sure are correct about me and the world around you, the exact nature of the world and yourself is patently obvious to you, and you are sure you already know everything.

That is your prison.

That is my point.

You don't want a solution, you want to be right.

[Jamestown1630]

I don’t believe in reincarnation as popularly conceived, either.

But HTRN makes himself great sport sometimes.

[HiTech RedNeck]

Jesus is the solution.

You want a “system” (that you can know, understand, and master) to be the solution.

[Jamestown1630]

You think too much of yourself, Redneck. Cloaking yourself in the Lord may blind YOU to your egotism, but it doesn’t hide it from others.

[Luke21]

You need to spend some time with the Psalms.

[OregonRancher]

Don’t know who to attribute this to, just emailed to me so passing it on:

>>> To all the people who have let this election break up families and friends let this sink in I think the last civil conversations we had occurred just days before November 8, 2016. You were supremely confident Hillary Clinton would win the presidential election; you voted for her with glee. As a lifelong Republican, I bit down hard and cast my vote for Donald Trump. Then the unimaginable happened. He won.
>>> And you lost your freaking minds.
>>>
>>> I knew you would take the loss hard—and personally—since all of you were super jacked-up to elect the first woman president. But I did not imagine you would become totally deranged, attacking anyone who voted for Trump or supported his presidency as a racist, sexist, misogynistic, homophobic Nazi-sympathizer.
>>>
>>> The weirdness started on social media late on Election Night, as it became clear Hillary was going to lose. A few of you actually admitted that you were cradling your sleeping children, weeping, wondering what to tell your kindergartner the next morning about Trump’s victory. It continued over the next several days. Some of you seriously expressed fear about modern-day concentration camps. Despite living a privileged lifestyle, you were suddenly a casualty of the white patriarchy. Your daughters were future victims; your sons were predators-in-waiting. You threatened to leave Facebook because you could no longer enjoy the family photos or vacation posts from people who, once friends, became Literal Hitlers to you on November 8 because they voted for Donald Trump.
>>>
>>> I admit I was a little hurt at first. The attacks against us Trump voters were so personal and so vicious that I did not think it could be sustained. I thought maybe you would regain your sanity after some turkey and egg nog.
>>>
>>> But you did not. You got worse. And I went from sad to angry to where I am today: Amused.
>>> As the whole charade you have been suckered into over the last 18 months starts to fall apart—that Trump would not survive his presidency; he would be betrayed by his own staff, family, and/or political party; he would destroy the Republican Party; he would be declared mentally ill and removed from office; he would be handcuffed and dragged out of the White House by Robert Mueller for “colluding” with Russia—let me remind you what complete fools you have made of yourselves. Not to mention how you’ve been fooled by the media, the Democratic Party, and your new heroes on the NeverTrump Right.
>>>
>>> On November 9, you awoke from a self-induced, eight-year-long political coma to find that White House press secretaries shade the truth and top presidential advisors run political cover for their boss. You were shocked to discover that presidents exaggerate, even lie, on occasion. You became interested for the first time about the travel accommodations, office expenses, and lobbyist pals of administration officials. You started counting how many rounds of golf the president played. You suddenly thought it was fine to mock the first lady now that she wasn’t Michelle Obama. Once you removed your pussy hat after attending the Women’s March, you made fun of Kellyanne Conway’s hair, Sarah Sanders’ weight, Melania Trump’s shoes, Hope Hicks’ death stare; you helped fuel a rumor started by a bottom-feeding author that U.N. Ambassador Nikki Haley slept with Donald Trump. You thought it was A-OK that Betsy DeVos was nearly physically assaulted and routinely heckled. You glorified a woman who has sex on camera for a paycheck.
>>>
>>> You have learned all kinds of new things that those of us who didn’t willfully ignore politics for the past eight years already knew. For example, we already knew that illegal immigrants were being deported and families were being separated.
>>>
>>> Some of your behavior has been kinda cute. It was endearing to watch you become experts on the Logan Act, the Hatch Act, the Second Amendment, the 25th Amendment, and the Emoluments Clause. You developed a new crush on Mitt Romney after calling him a “sexist” for having “binders full of women.” You longed for a redux of the presidency of George W. Bush, a man you once wanted imprisoned for war crimes. Ditto for John McCain. You embraced people like Bill Kristol and David Frum without knowing anything about their histories of shotgunning the Iraq War.
>>>
>>> Classified emails shared by Hillary Clinton? Who cares! Devin Nunes wanting to declassify crucial information of the public interest? Traitor!
>>> But your newfound admiration and fealty to law enforcement really has been a fascinating transformation. Wasn’t it just last fall that I saw you loudly supporting professional athletes who were protesting police brutality by kneeling during the national anthem? Remember how you fanboyed a mediocre quarterback for wearing socks that depicted cops as pigs?
>>>
>>> But now you sound like paid spokesmen for the Fraternal Order of Police. You insist that any legitimate criticism of the misconduct and possibile criminality that occured at the Justice Department and FBI is an “attack on law enforcement.” While you once opposed the Patriot Act because it might have allowed the federal government to spy on terrorists who were using the local library to learn how to make suitcase bombs, you now fully support the unchecked power of a secret court to look into the phone calls, text messages and emails of an American citizen because he volunteered for the Trump campaign for a few months.
>>> Spying on terrorists, circa 2002: Bad. Spying on Carter Page, circa 2017: The highest form of patriotism.
>>>
>>> And that white, male patriarchy that you were convinced would strip away basic rights and silence any opposition after Trump won? That fear has apparently been washed away as you hang on every word uttered by James Comey, John Brennan, and James Clapper. This triumvirate is exhibit “A” of the old-boy network, and represents how the insularity, arrogance, and cover-your-tracks mentality of the white-male power structure still prevails. Yet, instead of rising up against it, you are buying their books, retweeting their Twitter rants and blasting anyone who dares to question their testicular authority. Your pussy hat must be very sad.
>>>
>>> But your daily meltdowns about Trump-Russia election collusion have been the most entertaining to observe. After Robert Mueller was appointed as Special Counsel, you were absolutely convinced it would result in Trump’s arrest and/or impeachment. Some of you insisted that Trump wouldn’t last beyond 2017. You quickly swallowed any chum tossed at you by the Trump-hating media on MSNBC, the New York Times and the Washington Post about who was going down next, or who would flip on the president.
>>>
>>> For the past year, I have watched you obsess over a rotating cast of characters: Paul Manafort, Donald Trump, Jr., Jared Kushner, Carter Page, Reince Priebus, Jeff Sessions, Michael Flynn, Steve Bannon, Sam Nunberg, and Hope Hicks are just a few of the people you thought would turn on Trump or hasten his political demise. But when those fantasies didn’t come true, you turned to Michael Avenatti and Stormy Daniels for hope and inspiration. It will always be your low point.
>>> Well, I think it will be. Each time I believe you’ve hit bottom, you come up with a new baseline. Perhaps defending the unprecedented use of federal power to spy on political foes then lie about it will the next nail in your credibility coffin.
>>>
>>> The next several weeks will be tough for you. I think Americans will learn some very hard truths about what happened in the previous administration and how we purposely have been misled by powerful leaders and the news media. I wish I could see you as a victim here, but you are not. I know you are smart; you chose to support this insurgency with your eyes wide open.
>>> Sent from my iPhone

[Jamestown1630]

That is excellent. I wish we knew who wrote it; but I’m saving.

[tinyowl]

"Jesus is the solution."

Jesus is Jesus.

Things are only what they are. Anything else ... that came from your thinking. I could be wrong but I assume you think I'm degrading Jesus by saying that. Actually you're degrading Him by reducing Him to an object of your thinking. You are trapped in thinking so everything you see is made by your thinking. That's fine, as long as you know what it is.

So that isn't Jesus that you're referring to even if it looks like Him. There is Jesus the real Jesus, and the Jesus in your head. The real one is the only one that matters. The one in my head doesn't matter either.

You say I have a 'system' but I don't have a system. Everything is already created and tells me what it is, so I don't need a system. Everything already has a system. You say I need something to 'understand' but I don't want to understand anything. You say I need to 'master' it but there is nothing to master.

But you need a Jesus to solve your problem. So you say 'Jesus is the solution.' I understand this - but do you?

There is no problem, but there is Jesus.

No Problem. Jesus is Jesus.

Very simple! Don't make a problem, don't make a Jesus in your thinking that hides Jesus. Then Jesus is everywhere, and problems are nowhere, unless you feel like making one.

Do you REALLY think you know how God's world works?

If you do, then why do you have a problem? Why do you need a solution? Why are you lecturing other people like some authority? When your problem is gone, ping me and lecture me like an authority. I already got rid of my problem. We can compare notes.

Your problem is in your relationship to Jesus, you only see what you want to see. In your case, because being right is the most important thing. You don't need to learn that you are wrong, you need to learn to be silent. That's a lecture! but I'm not the who said he had a problem.

Ok I think that's the end of what I have that has a chance at being productive for either of us. You will probably argue that this was true before I first responded to you :-) Have a good weekend!

[thesearethetimes...]

Thanks so much FRiend, for the thoughtful reply. It certainly hit a bullseye, or maybe even two 😉, and better still, offered many points to that are definitely worth turning over more than a few times, in my heart and mind. To clarify somewhat, I do understand the importance of, and believe I am making considerable progress in not letting the endless noise of the media cloud my appreciation of an otherwise lovely day 😇. But my love for what I see as another God given gift; the idea that was, and is America; will not allow me to sit by, and watch those few who seek to enslave us, proceed unchecked, with me somehow thinking that it is above my pay grade to wade in 😏 So what I am hoping for, in addition to the funny and enlightening camaraderie of FR, are some ideas on an Underground Railroad of sorts 😇 Subtle, and maybe not so subtle, ways to signal to the like minded, that there are more of us than anyone realizes, and more everyday. And who knows, maybe even to give pause to our “betters”, in D.C. and state capitals across the nation. Again, thanks so much for the dialogue! And HTRN, you are in many FReeper prayers FRiend, that May God share His strength and guidance with you. Tatt

[thesearethetimes...]

Lifted 😋 BTTT