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Registration Leads to Confiscation in South Africa
Gun Watch ^ | 25 July, 2018 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 07/25/2018 7:04:13 AM PDT by marktwain



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On June 7th, 2018, the Constitutional Court in South Africa, overruled a lower court's decision that parts of South Africa's gun laws were unconstitutional. The laws were absolute, and did not allow for appeal or legitimate reasons for delay, such as hospitalization or death.

From citizen.co.za:
Section 24 of the Act requires that any person who seeks to renew a licence must do so 90 days before its expiry date. Section 28 stipulates that if a firearm licence has been cancelled‚ the firearm must be disposed of or forfeited to the state. A 60-day timeframe was placed on its disposal, which was to be done through a dealer.

In 2017, North Gauteng High Court judge Ronel Tolmay ruled that these two sections were unconstitutional. She stated that firearms due for renewal in terms of section 24 of the act “will be deemed to be valid, until the Constitutional Court has made its determination on the Constitutionality of the aforesaid sections”.

The effects of yesterday’s ruling are far-reaching. It is estimated that there are at least 300 000 firearm owners who – either negligently or intently – failed to renew their firearm licences. These people will have to hand their firearms in at their nearest police stations, from where it will be destroyed.

In his judgment, Froneman stated the prosecution of those who failed to renew licences timeously was unlikely. It is, however, not excluded from the realm of possibility.
Compensation is allowed under the firearms act, but is at the discretion of the firearms act registrar. Maximum compensation is only 500 Rand ($37) per pistol or 1000 Rand ($75) per rifle. Those amounts are laughably short of market
values.  The South African Rand was worth $1.40 as late as 1971. At the time that black majority rule was forced on South Africa, it was $.33. Now it is worth about $.075, or 7.5 American cents.

The South African government required all legal firearms in South Africa to be registered. Now it requires about 300,000 of them to be turned in without any rational compensation. The South African government has become amazingly corrupt in the last 23 years.  It is unknown how many $10,000 rifles or even $400 pistols will actually be destroyed, as required by current South African law.

Socialist governments in Africa are notoriously wasteful as well as corrupt.

The legislature recently voted to allow a Constitutional change so that land from white landowners could be confiscated without compensation.

This latest move toward tyranny will hasten the departure of productive people from South Africa. South Africa seems determined to follow the example of Zimbabwe.  Black majority rule quickly devolved into dictatorship, war, and starvation in Zimbabwe.

Constitutional limits are only effective if they can be enforced.

©2018 by Dean Weingarten: Permission to share is granted when this notice and link are included.

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TOPICS: Government; History; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: africa; banglist; confiscation; registration; sa
Register guns.

Created a pretext, or make re-registration difficult.

Confiscate guns.

1 posted on 07/25/2018 7:04:13 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

There was a valid justification for Colonialism.

In a generation, Africa will be back where it was before the Europeans arrived.


2 posted on 07/25/2018 7:08:39 AM PDT by Redleg Duke (The Democrats in California want another civil war over cheap labor!)
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To: marktwain

Is the Gun Confiscation and Coming Genocide of White South Africans a Beta Test for America?

http://www.thecommonsenseshow.com/is-the-gun-confiscation-and-coming-genocide-of-white-south-africans-a-beta-test-for-america/


3 posted on 07/25/2018 7:18:32 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Like Enoch, Noah, & Lot, the True Church will soon be removed & then destruction comes forth.)
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To: Redleg Duke
In a generation, Africa will be back where it was before the Europeans arrived.

Wakanda?


4 posted on 07/25/2018 7:23:47 AM PDT by Simon Green ("Arm your daughter, sir, and pay no attention to petty bureaucrats.")
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To: marktwain

Over and over again they prove how much smarter they are.


5 posted on 07/25/2018 7:26:09 AM PDT by spincaster ( AM A)
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To: marktwain

6 posted on 07/25/2018 7:28:35 AM PDT by Simon Green ("Arm your daughter, sir, and pay no attention to petty bureaucrats.")
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To: marktwain

If you’re White and not armed to the teeth in South Africa your dead


7 posted on 07/25/2018 7:29:47 AM PDT by butlerweave
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To: Simon Green

The locals have tried very hard to retain that “$h!thole” look. Are they gonna pay smarter/higher motivated people than themselves to keep all that up and running?


8 posted on 07/25/2018 7:30:21 AM PDT by Delta 21 (Splodeyhead is the only cure for MAGAphobia)
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To: marktwain

I look at that and similar examples like Canada, the U.K. and Australia and say “yeah......ummmm....no. Not one inch. The gun grabbers must be stopped at all costs and for any measures they propose no matter how limited or reasonable they try to sound. We know where this leads.”


9 posted on 07/25/2018 7:44:31 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: marktwain

Registration leads to confiscation.
Confiscation leads to oppression.


10 posted on 07/25/2018 7:48:16 AM PDT by I want the USA back (This week's hysterical obsession: Trump tweet on iranian threat. Last week's: Trump Putin's Bitch.)
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To: Simon Green

Honestly?
I would not recommend the US Constitution as a model for Africa, either. Americans are barely capable of living under and upholding the principles of the US Constitution - and we’re slipping badly thanks to the Left.
Africans would never be able to do so.


11 posted on 07/25/2018 7:50:37 AM PDT by Little Ray (Freedom Before Security!)
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To: Redleg Duke

There was a valid justification for Colonialism.


I hear the Chinese are recolonizing the continent.


12 posted on 07/25/2018 7:54:44 AM PDT by hanamizu
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To: marktwain

Prelude to confiscation and theft of the land - political tyranny. The Founders saw it and prepared for it. Now, there are plenty of pols and others who want to steal your birthright on one pretext or another.

This sort of power grab and theft is well documented throughout history and CAN happen in the USA.

“ETERNAL vigilance is the price of freedom.”


13 posted on 07/25/2018 8:01:26 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: marktwain

Forfeit my gun to the state ? The largest mass murdering organization ever assembled on the planet? Bullets first baby.


14 posted on 07/25/2018 8:16:01 AM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: marktwain

Gotta disarm the population before the Zimbabwe-ization gets fully underway...


15 posted on 07/25/2018 8:45:35 AM PDT by ManHunter (You can run, but you'll only die tired... Army snipers: Reach out and touch someone)
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To: Delta 21

Very sadly, no matter how far South Africa evolves into a new ZIMBABE, thd tragic TRUTH will be that is the result of the peoples “Free Choice”, desires and actions.
Somehow, the blame will be placed on the long gone WHITE population of the wreckage the country became. Naturally


16 posted on 07/25/2018 9:09:43 AM PDT by CaptainAmiigaf ( i)
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To: hanamizu

It ok so okay...they aren’t white...any black who objects will be composted.


17 posted on 07/25/2018 9:35:14 AM PDT by Redleg Duke (The Democrats in California want another civil war over cheap labor!)
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To: CaptainAmiigaf

“evolves”? Maybe”devolves”!


18 posted on 07/25/2018 9:38:17 AM PDT by Redleg Duke (The Democrats in California want another civil war over cheap labor!)
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To: marktwain

Rounding up the guns just as they’re telling whites they’re confiscating their land.

‘The time for reconciliation is over’: South Africa votes to confiscate white-owned land without compensation
https://www.news.com.au/finance/economy/world-economy/the-time-for-reconciliation-is-over-south-africa-votes-to-confiscate-whiteowned-without-compensation/news-story/a8a81155995b1adc1c399d3576c4c0bc


19 posted on 07/25/2018 9:43:35 AM PDT by tbw2
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To: Redleg Duke

Darn it!! YOU are right. There goes 5 points from my grade today. rats. Although the proper word could possible also be DESOLVES and the place melts down.


20 posted on 07/25/2018 11:55:18 AM PDT by CaptainAmiigaf ( i)
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