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Gunfights that Changed LE Tactics
Am Shooting Journal ^ | 8/10/2018 | C Hodkins

Posted on 08/10/2018 4:52:21 AM PDT by w1n1

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They wouldn't have to keep rewriting their procedures is they'd just taken the time to study the body of work left by the late Jim Cirillo, the dean of the gunfight. The first thing Crillo would tell you is don't ever expect a single bullet to end a fight. Not even if that single bullet is a 12-ga. slug.

The single best result to have came out of the FBI's '86 Miami debacle was it led directly to the FBI's new 8-phase bullet testing protocol. The fact that bullet manufacturers now are seiously invested in building bullets to meet the new FBI standard is the primary reason for this latest resurgence of the 9 millie.

It bears mention that all of the good guys who were killed or received permanently debilitating injuries in the Miami shoot-out had been shot with the AR. Despite both having been shot at least six times, the proximal cause of the death of both perps (and SHAME ON Am Shooting Journal FOR MENTIONING THEM BY NAME) was a .38+P delivered at powderburn range while they sat in their (would-be) get-away car (can you say coup de grâce?).

21 posted on 08/10/2018 10:19:33 AM PDT by Paal Gulli
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To: 1Old Pro

The media was at risk prior to Trump?
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Good catch ;’l


22 posted on 08/10/2018 11:24:32 AM PDT by Spacetrucker (George Washington didn't use his freedom of speech to defeat the British - HE SHOT THEM .. WITH GUNS)
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To: Fester Chugabrew
This does not read well. Needs an editor for both grammar and content. -GP

Another hack piece from ASJ. And not at all comprehensive, either.

23 posted on 08/10/2018 12:35:20 PM PDT by archy (Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Except bears, they'll kill you a little, then eat you.)
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To: w1n1

1986 FBI Miami shootout
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04dUCT-qO3c


24 posted on 08/10/2018 1:03:17 PM PDT by packrat35 (Pelosi is only on loan to the world from Satan. Hopefully he will soon want his baby killer back)
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To: w1n1

North Hollywood Bank Robbery
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZg4mcYkIwU


25 posted on 08/10/2018 1:04:45 PM PDT by packrat35 (Pelosi is only on loan to the world from Satan. Hopefully he will soon want his baby killer back)
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Carl Drega Rampage

Drega had a long history of conflict with government officials over code enforcement issues, starting in the 1970s over whether he could use tarpaper to side his vacation house in Columbia, New Hampshire. He claimed that in 1981, 80 feet (24 m) of the riverbank along his property collapsed during a rainstorm. Drega decided to dump and pack enough dirt to repair the erosion damage, saying this would restore his lot along the Connecticut River to its original size. State officials, on the other hand, contested that Drega was trying to change the course of the river. In 1995, the town selectman Vickie Bunnell accompanied a town tax assessor to Drega’s property in a dispute over an assessment. Drega fired shots into the air to drive them away. Drega bought an AR-15 rifle and armor vest, and began equipping his property with early-warning electronic noise and motion detectors.

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On August 19, 1997, at about 2:30, New Hampshire state trooper Scott Phillips stopped Drega in the parking lot of LaPerle’s IGA supermarket in neighboring Colebrook for having too much rust on his pickup truck. Drega got out of his truck with his rifle and fired upon Trooper Phillips. Trooper Phillips was hit but returned fire before retreating into a nearby field. Drega followed Phillips into the field and murdered him. Trooper Les Lord pulled into the LaPerle’s parking lot moments later, and from several hundred feet away, Drega shot and killed Lord before he could even get out of his police car. Drega then stole Phillips’ police car, and drove to the office of Colebrook District Court judge Vickie Bunnell to murder her. Bunnell reportedly carried a handgun in her purse out of fear of Drega, but may not have had it with her that day. Seeing Drega approaching the building with his rifle, she warned fellow staffers to evacuate as she ran for an exit. Drega shot Bunnell in the back from a range of about 30 feet (9.1 m), killing her. Dennis Joos, editor of the local Colebrook News and Sentinel, attempted to disarm Drega after Bunnell fell. During the struggle Drega shot and killed Joos with a second firearm.

Drega returned to his property and set his house on fire. New Hampshire Fish & Game warden Wayne Saunders observed Drega driving the state police car. Drega turned and crossed the state line to Bloomfield, Vermont, exited the police car and fired upon Saunders. Saunders was hit with several bullets through his vehicle, including one that struck his badge, saving him from a likely fatal wound. Saunders retreated under the hail of fire by driving in reverse, and crashing into the Connecticut River.

Drega set up his last stand on a dead end road on the Vermont side of the river. Police from numerous state, local and federal agencies descended upon Drega’s position. Drega sprang his ambush, shooting NH state trooper Jeffrey Caulder in the lower abdomen, NH state trooper Robert Haase in the foot, and U.S. Border Patrol agent John Pfeifer in the chest.

After the gunfire died down, agents moved a police vehicle to the scene in an attempt to evacuate Pfeifer before he bled to death. But once the vehicle approached, Drega began firing again, forcing the officers to take cover. Eventually, NH state trooper Charles West and Border Patrol agent Stephen Brooks advanced up a slope to Drega’s position. As Drega stepped out from behind a tree to fire, Brooks opened up with his M14 rifle while West fired a slug from his Remington 870 shotgun, killing Drega and ending the gunfight.


26 posted on 08/10/2018 1:08:45 PM PDT by packrat35 (Pelosi is only on loan to the world from Satan. Hopefully he will soon want his baby killer back)
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Carl Drega,,,

Damn,Rambo would be in trouble
with This guy.


27 posted on 08/10/2018 5:17:33 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY)
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To: w1n1

Bump for later reading


28 posted on 08/10/2018 5:36:53 PM PDT by HP8753 (Live Free!!!! .............or don't.)
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To: Paal Gulli

My Scandium snub nose 38+P is amazing. This little barreled revolver nearly outshoots my semicustom 1911 in accuracy


29 posted on 08/11/2018 5:15:03 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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