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Historical Ratings of Presidents Reviewed by Conservatives?
August 10, 2018 | Me

Posted on 08/10/2018 7:39:33 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican

I'm looking for historical ratings of Presidents from a Conservative source. Most I've read are done by "liberal" political scientists. One example? Jimmy Carter ranked higher than George W. Bush? C'mon, that's preposterous.


TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: presidents; top10
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1 posted on 08/10/2018 7:39:33 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

Preposterous? Don’t be so sure. Some Freeper may be along soon to show greater support for Carter then W.

There is some serious hatred for shrub around here lately. I don’t think he was all that bad. Better than Gore obviously. And I don’t think Carter was all that bad either. He certainly was nowhere as near as bad as Johnson or Clinton or Obama.


2 posted on 08/10/2018 7:44:08 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: MinorityRepublican

You could start one here. 44 points for 1st place, down to 1 for last (can only vote for Grover Cleveland once), then someone just has to add up the scores.


3 posted on 08/10/2018 7:45:13 PM PDT by aynrandfreak (Being a Democrat means never having to say you're sorry)
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To: aynrandfreak
You could start one here. 44 points for 1st place, down to 1 for last (can only vote for Grover Cleveland once), then someone just has to add up the scores.

That's a great idea! Would be neat to see how Presidents are ranked according to FReepers.

4 posted on 08/10/2018 7:50:34 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: aynrandfreak

So what criteria do we use to rate and rank presidents?

How effective they were in wartime, for those who presided during war? How effective they were in passing legislation, regardless of whether we as conservatives agree with those policies represented by legislation?

Just rank based on ideology? In that case, many of us would.put Reagan first.


5 posted on 08/10/2018 7:53:05 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Dilbert San Diego

I agree. I think most conservatives would consider Reagan to be the greatest conservative president ever. But then who is number two? Donald Trump? Richard Nixon? One of the New World Order Bushes?

I’m thinking Eisenhower.


6 posted on 08/10/2018 7:57:12 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: aynrandfreak
My top 5 would be (best first) Jackson, Washington, Trump, Reagan, John Adams, in that order. Bottom 5 would be (worst first) Obama, FDR, Clinton, LBJ, Wilson. Logic being, Jackson was the original kick the courts ass President, he is the only one that balanced the budget, and he kept us from having a Central Bank. Washington ... created the path for the rest. Trump is doing things I never thought I would see accomplished, and even more than Reagan, who reversed the slide but gave us Bush the Elder (spit). Adams created a lot of the original infrastructure.

Obama never should have been pResident, and created divisiveness, weaponized the bureaucracy. FDR created the welfare state, Clinton just was a sleaze, LBJ's great society is a disaster, and Wilson gave us the idea that turned into the UN (and he was the father of progressive presidents.)
7 posted on 08/10/2018 7:57:21 PM PDT by RainMan (rainman)
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To: MinorityRepublican

I’ve got Washington, Trump, Reagan, Coolidge, and McKinley as my top 5.


8 posted on 08/10/2018 7:57:29 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The MSM is in the business of creating a fake version of reality for political reasons.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

> Jimmy Carter ranked higher than George W. Bush? <

No doubt about it. Carter was an incompetent. But Carter didn’t involve us in not one, but two Vietnams. That’s W’s legacy.

But I’m not done yet. FDR had Pearl Harbor. And then FDR decided to utterly crush Germany and Japan. And that’s exactly what happened. Nazism was ground into dust, as was Japanese imperialism.

W had his own Pearl Harbor: 9/11. And so W had the opportunity - and the duty - to utterly crush radical Islam. But, no. W instead told us that “Islam is peace”.

Carter’s errors are minor compared to W’s. The West will pay for W’s mistakes for decades to come.


9 posted on 08/10/2018 7:58:43 PM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

W’s. record speaks for itself. He had to destroy the economy in order to save it, and he got us embroiled in Iraq on a false claim. What did that cost us? 3 trillion?


10 posted on 08/10/2018 7:59:26 PM PDT by be-baw (still seeking...)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Giving away the Panama Canal was no big deal, was it?


11 posted on 08/10/2018 8:02:44 PM PDT by Carriage Hill (Life is simpler when you plow around the stump.)
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To: RainMan

LBJ was a million times worse then Clinton.


12 posted on 08/10/2018 8:03:20 PM PDT by napscoordinator (Trump/Hunter, jr for President/Vice President 2016)
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To: Leaning Right

I agree about W but I would add Iran and inflation to carter’s woes. He was the first to be able to take on islam and he sat in the wh 444 days and peed his pants.


13 posted on 08/10/2018 8:04:21 PM PDT by morphing libertarian (Use Comey's Report; Indict Hillary now. --- Proud Smelly Walmart Deplorable)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Only two decent ones I’ve seen in my lifetime were Reagan and Trump.

Eisenhower, though before my time was too swampy for me, and I hate being continually bludgeoned by the left for his crack about the “military-industrial complex”. Also he was too anti-Paton and too closely involved with the Russian give away after WWII.

I never liked Nixon’s China policy, but Watergate now seems quaint. Still, he was ultimately a swamp creature who sold us out to the Chinese.


14 posted on 08/10/2018 8:04:31 PM PDT by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (Go Egypt on 0bama)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Bush earned much of the hate but he was a much better choice than either Gore or Kerry would have been.


15 posted on 08/10/2018 8:07:08 PM PDT by jospehm20
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To: RainMan

Neither Washington or adams would make my list to federalist for me. in no particular order Trump, Andrew Jackson, Teddy Roosevelt, Reagan, Jeffeeson.


16 posted on 08/10/2018 8:08:59 PM PDT by rebel25 (GOD, Family, guns, and duck hunting, everything else is just noise.)
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To: RainMan

Andrew Jackson, unrepentant slave owner and founder of the Democratic Party (according to Dinesh D’Souza)?

“The film then switches to examining and criticizing the history of the Democratic Party, from Andrew Jackson to the present day. D’Souza is portrayed going into a basement archive of the DNC Headquarters where he reveals secrets of the party’s history.” Hillary’s America

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary%27s_America:_The_Secret_History_of_the_Democratic_Party


17 posted on 08/10/2018 8:15:57 PM PDT by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (Go Egypt on 0bama)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Presidential ratings.
Not ratings of Conservatives.
Washington
Jefferson
Jackson
Lincoln
Reagan
Trump.


18 posted on 08/10/2018 8:18:29 PM PDT by Sasparilla ( I'm Not Tired of Winning)
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To: MinorityRepublican

This historian hasn’t done a scale per se, although you can find Constitutional “grades” in my Politically Incorrect guide to the Presidents from Washington to Taft.

But, a plain ranking would be

1. Washington
2. Lincoln
3. Reagan
4. Coolidge
5. Trump
6. Harding
7. Cleveland
8. Jefferson
9. Polk
10. Monroe
11. Ike
12. TR
13. McKinley
14.Arthur
15. Jackson

The last two would be
49. Carter
50. Obama


19 posted on 08/10/2018 8:29:42 PM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: carriage_hill

Carter was horrible. Fortunately, Reagan was able to get things back on track. Obama was largely incompetent but managed to screw us over big time with ACA when the Dems controlled congress.


20 posted on 08/10/2018 8:30:48 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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