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Flopping Aces ^ | 08-31-18 | DrJohn

Posted on 08/31/2018 11:21:05 AM PDT by Starman417

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To: PIF
for which we had the potential tech in the 60s to travel to in about 3 days, not years

Okay, that's a new one on me. I do recall reading proposed mission profiles in the 1980s that estimated a three month trip just to reach Mars.
41 posted on 08/31/2018 6:31:44 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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America - First moon landing.

Canada - First flagless man cuz socialism fails.

China - First collective.


42 posted on 08/31/2018 8:34:49 PM PDT by TheNext
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1964 was when Project Orion was killed; motto: Mars by 1965, Saturn by 1970. Solar system exploration ships (10,000 tons) would be have crews 150; interstellar proposals were in the discussion stage - crews in the thousands (40 million tons).

The bigger these ships were, the better they would preform. Would use water in the millions of gallons as insulation from external radiation; spin gravity; nuclear propulsion.

Many videos on YouTube from artist conceptions to documentary videos made at the time as well as interviews with the people involved.

Reasons killed: Government interagency infighting, NASA Apollo conflict, perceived treaty obligations, lack of political leadership. “...the first time in modern history that a major expansion of human technology has been suppressed for political reasons.” - Freeman Dyson.

So we got 12 guys walking the moon for something like 80 hours total in one general area and called it good ‘because there was nothing to see except rocks’ 45 years ago. Sic transit spes; Eheu fugaces labuntur anni


PS: my step dad was a bomber pilot in the AAC; service - WWII, Korea, Nam


43 posted on 09/01/2018 4:21:23 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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Yes, I remember reading about Project Orion - shockwaves from nuclear explosions for propulsion.


44 posted on 09/01/2018 7:09:09 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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According to the sources that I read, the Nuclear Test Ban Treaty played a significant role in the cancellation of Orion.


45 posted on 09/01/2018 7:11:11 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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i said in part: Reasons killed: Government interagency infighting, NASA Apollo conflict, perceived treaty obligations
46 posted on 09/02/2018 1:28:41 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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Did they not include the US flag patch on the space suit too?


47 posted on 09/02/2018 3:58:56 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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I meant no quibble. I was stating that out of the varied reasons, the NTB Treaty is said to be the most significant.


48 posted on 09/02/2018 7:17:45 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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