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Today in military history: Star Trek, the Red Baron, and bloody Antietam
Unto the Breach ^ | Sept. 17, 2018 | Chris Carter

Posted on 09/17/2018 8:17:30 AM PDT by fugazi

Today's post is in honor of Staff Sgt. Michael W. Hosey, who gave his life for our country on this day in 2011. While serving in his fourth deployment, Hosey, 27, of Birmingham, Ala. was killed when his unit was attacked by insurgent small-arms fire in Afghanistan's Uruzgan province. He was assigned to Headquarters Support Company, 3rd Battalion, 1st Special Forces Group (Airborne) and serving on his fourth deployment.

1862: The Battle of Antietam (Maryland) – the bloodiest single-day battle in American history – opens between Confederate Army forces under Gen. Robert E. Lee and Union Army forces under Maj. Gen. George B. McClellan. After 12 hours of fighting, some 23,000 Americans are dead, wounded, or missing.

Though a strategic victory for the Union, the battle will prove tactically inconclusive for both sides.

[...]

1916: At 11:00 a.m. over Villers-Pouich, France, a German Albatros D.II fighter closes in on a Royal Air Force scout bomber and shoots it out the sky. Former cavalry officer Manfred Albrecht Freiher von Richtofen - the soon-to-be-infamous Red Baron - has scored his first victory for the German Luftstreitkräfte. Although he is now known for his red Fokker triplane, Richtofen was in the seat of an Albatros biplane for most of his 84 kills.

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1976: The cast of the television series Star Trek is on hand at Rockwell's Palmdale assembly plant to witness the rollout of the brand-new Space Shuttle Enterprise. Originally named Constitution, a massive letter-writing campaign by Star Trek fans convinced the White House to rename the first shuttle after fictional Enterprise.

Series creator Capt. Gene Roddenberry flew B-17s during World War II. James Doohan also flew, as an artillery observation pilot for the Royal Canadian artillery - after "Scotty" fought his way ashore Juno Beach during the Normandy Invasion. DeForest

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TOPICS: History; Military/Veterans
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1 posted on 09/17/2018 8:17:30 AM PDT by fugazi
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To: ro_dreaming; FreedomPoster; mass55th; abb; AlaskaErik

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2 posted on 09/17/2018 8:18:07 AM PDT by fugazi
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To: fugazi

I was a big Red Baron fan when I was a kid. I think it was because of Snoopy.


3 posted on 09/17/2018 8:19:12 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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To: fugazi

From Wiki:

Strategy vs Tactics

In military usage, a military tactic is used by a military unit of no larger than a division to implement a specific mission and achieve a specific objective, or to advance toward a specific target.

The terms tactic and strategy are often confused: tactics are the actual means used to gain an objective, while strategy is the overall campaign plan, which may involve complex operational patterns, activity, and decision-making that govern tactical execution. The United States Department of Defense Dictionary of Military Terms[2] defines the tactical level as “the level of war at which battles and engagements are planned and executed to accomplish military objectives assigned to tactical units or task forces. Activities at this level focus on the ordered arrangement and maneuver of combat elements in relation to each other and to the enemy to achieve combat objectives.”

If, for example, the overall goal is to win a war against another country, one strategy might be to undermine the other nation’s ability to wage war by preemptively annihilating their military forces. The tactics involved might describe specific actions taken in specific locations, like surprise attacks on military facilities, missile attacks on offensive weapon stockpiles, and the specific techniques involved in accomplishing such objectives.


4 posted on 09/17/2018 8:23:07 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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To: fugazi

Looking at that photo, Roddenberry was a big guy.


5 posted on 09/17/2018 8:25:21 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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To: fugazi

5th grade, was at Antietam for an re-enactment in 1962. I remember being able to buy a civil war bayonet and scabbard there for $15..not that any of us kids could afford that.


6 posted on 09/17/2018 8:27:33 AM PDT by ratzoe
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Antietam battlefield is well worth a visit—very interesting site, and easier to grasp than Gettysburg. Of course it is a smaller battlefield than Gettysburg.


7 posted on 09/17/2018 8:39:14 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Verginius Rufus; ratzoe

I concur with you about the Antietam battlefield. One can walk the entire battlefield in a single day’s visit. It has been several years since I was last there, but then the visitor’s center was quite good.

Here is a link to a pdf copy of the Army’s Center of Military History “Staff Ride” book on the battle. I consider it a ‘must have’ when visiting the battlefield. I know the author and he is an expert on the Battle of Antietam and led dozens of staff rides to it for the Army staff and other military groups. He has since retired from CMH.

https://history.army.mil/html/books/035/35-3-1/cmhPub_35-3-1.pdf


8 posted on 09/17/2018 8:51:29 AM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: Moonman62

blah blah blah “Logistics”...

Took all the fun out of Avalon Hill games.

I just wanna drive tanks around, all this micromanagement stuff is for the birds.

:P


9 posted on 09/17/2018 9:01:22 AM PDT by Kommodor (Terrorist, Journalist or Democrat? I can't tell the difference.)
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To: Moonman62

As a rule in strategy wargaming tactics games are single tanks thru company size units, operation are battalion through division size units, and strategic are division and up. PS First day of Operation Market Garden in ‘44. Cannot really appreciate it until you lay out the wargame maps and realize Arnhem is 10 feet away from your start point.


10 posted on 09/17/2018 9:17:37 AM PDT by bravo whiskey (Never bring a liberal gun law to a gun fight.)
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To: fugazi

The space shuttle “Enterprise” never flew in space.


11 posted on 09/17/2018 9:31:41 AM PDT by jaydubya2
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To: fugazi
Thank you!! Visited Antietam battlefield quite a few times over the years. Both the 2nd and 20th Massachusetts Infantry Regiments fought at Antietam. Between the two units, Robert Gould Shaw, Norwood Penrose Hallowell, and Henry Sturgis Russell would go on to command the first black regiments raised in the north...the 54th and 55th Massachusetts Infantry Regiments, and the 5th Massachusetts Cavalry (unmounted). One of Frederick Douglass's sons served in the 54th, and another in the 5th Mass. Cavalry. Towards the end of the war, the 5th Mass. Cav. was sent to guard Confederate POW's at Point Lookout in Maryland. George T. Garrison, son of abolitionist William Lloyd Garrison also served as an officer in the 55th Massachusetts. He had never held a commission prior to his joining the unit.

One thing that I recently learned was that when Baron von Richtofen was shot down, the men of the RAF gave him a hero's funeral with Honor Guard and rifle salute.

12 posted on 09/17/2018 9:48:26 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: Moonman62

The old adage is that strategy makes colonels but logistics makes generals.


13 posted on 09/17/2018 10:59:32 AM PDT by Paal Gulli
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To: Paal Gulli

The old adage is that strategy makes colonels but logistics makes generals.

...

Like Grant being a quartermaster during the Mexican War?


14 posted on 09/17/2018 11:03:55 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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To: fugazi

George Takei (Mr. Sulu) and his family were interred at a camp for Japanese Americans in Arkansas. His cousin and aunt were among the dead in the atomic attack on Hiroshima.

And it’s made him a homosexual staunch liberal ever since!

(sarcasm? I don’t know anymore...)


15 posted on 09/17/2018 11:48:57 AM PDT by ro_dreaming (Chesterton, 'Christianity has not been tried and found wanting. It's been found hard and not tried')
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and that left wing fudge packer learned nothing from it......


16 posted on 09/17/2018 2:31:55 PM PDT by NYAmerican
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To: mass55th
From Ronald Reagan's radio address to the Nation on Armed Forces Day (May 15, 1982): "In James Michener's book THE BRIDGES AT TOKO-RI he writes of an officer waiting through the night for the return of planes to a carrier as dawn is coming on. And he asks, 'Where do we find such men?' Well, we find them where we've always found them. They are the product of the freest society man has ever known. They make a commitment to the military—make it freely, because the birthright we share as Americans is worth defending. God bless America. "
17 posted on 09/18/2018 7:10:30 AM PDT by fugazi
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