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Trump-proof aspects of Manafort deal rankle lawyers
politico.com ^ | 9/18/18 | JOSH GERSTEIN

Posted on 09/18/2018 6:09:30 PM PDT by blueyon

Robert Mueller seems to have built in safeguards to discourage the president from pardoning Manafort.

Special counsel Robert Mueller’s plea agreement with Paul Manafort on Friday took unusual and possibly unprecedented steps to undercut President Donald Trump’s ability to pardon his former campaign chairman.

The plea deal Mueller struck with Manafort contains several provisions that appear intended to discourage the former Trump aide from seeking a pardon and to rein in the impact of any pardon Trump might grant.

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Politics
KEYWORDS: govtabuse; manafort; manafortpardon; manafortpleadeal; mueller; trump; trumpmanafort
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So rotten
1 posted on 09/18/2018 6:09:30 PM PDT by blueyon
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To: blueyon

Mueller needs to be SO locked up....


2 posted on 09/18/2018 6:11:56 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: blueyon

That plea deal is ridiculously illegal.


3 posted on 09/18/2018 6:15:19 PM PDT by mindburglar (I like spelling it Lazers. It looks cooler.)
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Hey muleass: the president’s pardon power is ABSOLUTE.


4 posted on 09/18/2018 6:18:24 PM PDT by Mouton (The media is the enemy of the people.)
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To: mindburglar

POTUS can pardon him anyway, Trump is the POTUS he can do ANYTHING he wants!!!!


5 posted on 09/18/2018 6:19:33 PM PDT by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: blueyon

President Trump’s pardon powers are absolute. He can pardon Manafort for any and all crimes committed by him up to and including the day of the pardon. He can do it without Manafort asking for it. The crimes do not have to be named. But I do think Manafort should have to give up his property.


6 posted on 09/18/2018 6:20:32 PM PDT by Mercat
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To: blueyon

Who would possibly agree that Mueller is not a Weasel?


7 posted on 09/18/2018 6:20:47 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Mercat

I think RosenWeasel and Weasel Mueller should have to give up their property.


8 posted on 09/18/2018 6:21:37 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Mouton

Right. But Muleass reserves the right to seize his property if he gets a pardon. Completely illegal.


9 posted on 09/18/2018 6:21:52 PM PDT by mindburglar (I like spelling it Lazers. It looks cooler.)
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To: blueyon
Has a Presidential pardon ever been overturned,nullified,by any court or by any other means? I assume that Swampy Bob knows that one cannot “refuse” a Presidential pardon.If you're doing time for a Federal crime and the President pardons you then you're released...whether you want it or not.
10 posted on 09/18/2018 6:23:45 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (I've Never Owned Slaves...You've Never Picked Cotton.End Of "Discussion".)
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To: mindburglar

A pardon does not extend beyond criminal sanctions.


11 posted on 09/18/2018 6:27:34 PM PDT by Mouton (The media is the enemy of the people.)
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To: Trump Girl Kit Cat

Trump CAN also pardon him on ANY future charges brought forth by Muller!!!! SCREW THEM!!!! Trump NEEDS to give them the middle finger!!!


12 posted on 09/18/2018 6:28:53 PM PDT by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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Mueller made a lot of money very nefariously off the tax-payer’s back. Restitution is DUE.


13 posted on 09/18/2018 6:30:04 PM PDT by Dogbert41 (When the strong man, fully armed, guards his own dwelling, his goods are safe. -Luke 11:21)
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To: mindburglar
But Muleass reserves the right to seize his property if he gets a pardon. Completely illegal.

I'd like to see the DOJ argue that in court after a pardon-- what would they say-- it's a gift? LOL

14 posted on 09/18/2018 6:37:13 PM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens")
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To: blueyon

Mueller thinks he can limit in some way the President’s constitutional pardon power?


15 posted on 09/18/2018 6:41:25 PM PDT by SharpRightTurn (Chuck Schumer--giving pond scum everywhere a bad name.)
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To: blueyon

Partner, it will b all over when the files are released by the Justice Department. Robert Mueller's cushy job will b over!!!

16 posted on 09/18/2018 6:44:17 PM PDT by TheConservativeTejano (God Bless Texas...)
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An unconstitutional plea deal is no plea deal.

Anyone who is convicted under any federal statute has a right to request the president for a pardon.

Article II, Section 2 of the U.S. Constitution, the President’s power to pardon seems nearly limitless:

“[The President] shall have Power to Grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offences against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.”

The rules and procedures for seeking and receiving a pardon are contained in the Code of Federal Regulations (Title 28, Chapter 1, Part 1). Anyone who wishes to apply for clemency at the federal level must follow the rules and file a petition with the Department of Justice (specifically, the Office of the Pardon Attorney).

https://litigation.findlaw.com/legal-system/presidential-pardon-power-and-its-limits.html


17 posted on 09/18/2018 6:50:59 PM PDT by Candor7 ((Obama Fascism)http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: blueyon

If they found criminal behavior that broke state law a Presidential pardon would not help him there. I believe the bulk of the charges against him were tax evasion and failure to register as a lobbyist. I assume he didn’t pay New York state taxes either so, again, a Federal pardon will only partially help him.


18 posted on 09/18/2018 7:07:46 PM PDT by vigilence (Vigilence)
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To: blueyon

There is no way Mueller can do an end run around a Trump full and complete Pardon. It erases everything. It can even be done for all Federal crimes, both known and unknown as of the Pardon date.
Mueller knows this. It’s bluster.prosecutorial puffery.


19 posted on 09/18/2018 7:23:16 PM PDT by Sasparilla ( I'm Not Tired of Winning)
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To: Paladin2

Where are all the posters - here and elsewhere - who were so knowing about Mueller (and others) being White Hats?


20 posted on 09/18/2018 7:34:56 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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