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Why Do People Believe Climate Liars?
global warming religion ^ | 10/15/18 | Reasonmclucus

Posted on 10/16/2018 12:48:00 AM PDT by kathsua

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To: prophetic

NO! Tell us about it.

Thanks!


21 posted on 10/16/2018 3:57:28 AM PDT by The Right Stuff
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To: kathsua

I remember my world view in my teens and 20’s. I believed the older “adult experts” in the same way a child believes his parents. I also used to believe that company presidents (I didn’t know what a CEO was), doctors and other leaders simply had all the answers, almost in a godlike way.

In previous generations this is what caused women to switch from breast feeding to formula, creating a generation of people with serious allergies.

i.e. I understand why they believe it. But once they figure out that we all put our pants on one leg at a time, they usually mature in their thinking and don’t believe everything they are told.


22 posted on 10/16/2018 4:34:39 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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The computer programs the Climate Prophets use are of no value because they cannot be tested for accuracy against data.that won't exist for years.

Not true.

If these "models" were actually any good, they could be initialized to the conditions 100 years ago, and they could then generate a 100-year "forecast" which would match the historical record of the past century.

If they could do that, they would be screaming it from the rooftops.

The fact that they haven't done it means they can't do it and they're all frauds.

23 posted on 10/16/2018 5:29:31 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: kathsua
Today's Internet Money Quote:

Horace Freeland Judson in his book "The Great Betrayal", "sketches science as a fortress rising out of the mists, focused solely on defending and enriching itself. It might pretend to worship the Goddess Truth but inside, out of sight, it is the God Mammon who is lusted after."

24 posted on 10/16/2018 5:42:00 AM PDT by Quality_Not_Quantity (If I had a dollar for every gender, I'd have two dollars. And a bunch of counterfeit ones.)
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To: prophetic

“This translate that even if 9 out out 10 persons dies or has an adverse reactions to the drugs, the company typically has a 5 yr lead time to maximize their profits before the bodies starts piling up and the victims and their lawyers comes knocking.”

That is truly ignorant. The FDA monitors adverse events, and any uptick in deaths or injuries from anything medtech leads to immediate action. Recalls, forced plant shutdowns, even arrests.

10% better does not mean that 9 out of 10 can have adverse reactions or die. Your statement is completely false.


25 posted on 10/16/2018 7:17:24 AM PDT by Basket_of_Deplorables (Benedict Sessions.)
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To: kathsua

Because they don’t know the Truth.


26 posted on 10/16/2018 7:20:51 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (If your church believes in evolution it is not a Christian church.)
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Saying we can’t predict long term trends because we can’t predict short term variance shows a real ignorance of science and statistics. Insurance companies would be out of business overnight if that were true.

The loudmouth climatologists (like Michael Mann) haven’t predicted anything climate wise that came true. However, real climatologists are doing quite a good job of long term forecasting. Many hang out at www.wattsupwiththat.com check it out.


27 posted on 10/16/2018 7:23:36 AM PDT by Basket_of_Deplorables (Benedict Sessions.)
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Some while back I was watching a documentary done by a certain researcher that was using these agencies own published information and what they put out on their website and it is scary what he discovered!

See the link here https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=amazing+discoveries+walter+veith+2017 very very fascinating stuff he uncovered, but you may not sleep very well after watching these. I dont recall which video it was in.

28 posted on 10/16/2018 8:03:13 AM PDT by prophetic (Trump is today's DANIEL. Shut the mouth of lions Lord, let his enemies be the Cat Food instead.)
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it think it may be in this sub series https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDrscByKEUQ&index=11&list=PL95B1BB23B7A3C795 211 - The Secret Behind Secret Societies / Total Onslaught - Walter Veith


29 posted on 10/16/2018 8:06:16 AM PDT by prophetic (Trump is today's DANIEL. Shut the mouth of lions Lord, let his enemies be the Cat Food instead.)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSNU-jlHkDs&list=PL95B1BB23B7A3C795&index=26 226 - The UN & the Occult Agenda / Total Onslaught - Walter Veith


30 posted on 10/16/2018 8:07:25 AM PDT by prophetic (Trump is today's DANIEL. Shut the mouth of lions Lord, let his enemies be the Cat Food instead.)
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To: Basket_of_Deplorables

Ok so I stand corrected, and I breathe a big sigh of relief too! I got this info from multiple sources so yrs ago including a medical doctor.


31 posted on 10/16/2018 9:39:17 AM PDT by prophetic (Trump is today's DANIEL. Shut the mouth of lions Lord, let his enemies be the Cat Food instead.)
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To: prophetic

Thanks for saying that.

There is a requirement that drugs and devices show benefit, but it has been fudged in the past, true enough. “Barely better” is the standards some companies use, and they play games with the data.

Often the objective is get a newly patented drug out there, with a marketing blitz. Get patients to say, “hey, I saw a tv ad...” and docs don’t want the headaches of fighting with a patient. So they prescribe the new, very expensive meds, knowing insurance carriers are on the hook for the costs.

It happens a lot, and it is bs. Turns out many pricey, addictive pain meds aren’t any better than aspirin and ibuprofin, for example.


32 posted on 10/16/2018 10:51:43 AM PDT by Basket_of_Deplorables (Benedict Sessions.)
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To: kathsua

They feel the need to be part of something transcendent to give their pathetic existence meaning.


33 posted on 10/16/2018 8:28:01 PM PDT by Paal Gulli
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There is an entire generation since Kindergarten who have been taught GW is a scientific fact.

And their parents learned it from their kids school work.

Critical thinking skills are no longer taught.


34 posted on 10/16/2018 9:28:06 PM PDT by Rebelbase (..)
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“In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, not to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality the better. When people are forced to remain silent when they are being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced to repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their sense of probity. To assent to obvious lies is...in some small way to become evil oneself. One's standing to resist anything is thus eroded, and even destroyed. A society of emasculated liars is easy to control. I think if you examine political correctness, it has the same effect and is intended to.” -- Theodore Dalrymple [Wiki attributes this to Anthony Daniels, TD is his nom de plume]

35 posted on 11/20/2018 9:05:29 PM PST by SunkenCiv (and btw -- https://www.gofundme.com/for-rotator-cuff-repair-surgery)
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