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Bullets And Ballots - Florida Recount's Hidden Gun Control Agenda
Flopping Aces ^ | 11-13-18 | Daniel John Sobieski

Posted on 11/13/2018 3:36:36 PM PST by Starman417

We’ve all seen those lists of objects, names, places on tests attached along with the question of which one doesn’t belong or is out of place. Apply that test to the three Florida races affected by the vote fraud/incompetence in Broward and Palm Beach counties: Senator, Governor, and Agricultural Commissioner. Uh, agricultural commissioner? Why is anyone trying to steal that election, one lost under the radar among the seemingly more important national impact offices at stake.

The answer is that capturing the Florida agricultural commissioner’s post would be a key victory in liberal and progressive push for gun control. As the Tampa Bay Times notes, Florida is unusual in that the Florida agricultural commissioner, rather than the courts or other law enforcement, is the entity that regulates and controls things like concealed carry permits:

If it seems unusual for Florida's Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services to handle concealed weapons permits, that's because it is unusual – nearly every other state gives the job to police or courts….

the NRA had lawmakers quietly move the Division of Licensing, which handles the concealed weapons permit program, from the Florida Department of State to the state's Department of Agriculture in 2002, so that the program was answerable to an elected official.

Marion Hammer, the NRA's chief lobbyist in Florida, defended the move and the practice as a way of protecting the Second Amendment rights of Floridians from a confusing array of county and city gun ordinances:
To get a permit to carry a concealed weapon in Broward County, for example, you had to pay a $500 fee, be interviewed by people ranging from a psychologist to county officials, and show that you had a dangerous job or had threats to your life and needed to carry a gun. Fewer than 40 people had permits.

By contrast, more than 10,000 people had permits in Duval County, where the restrictions were looser.

To Hammer and the NRA, the varying ordinances were more than just a nuisance to gun owners, who couldn't travel from county to county without potentially breaking a law. They were also a threat to gun rights, and she set out to do away with them….

The Department of State handled permitting until 2002, when the Secretary of State, an elected position, was turned into an appointed position. Hammer said on Monday that she wanted concealed weapon licenses moved under an elected official answerable to the public, so she pushed lawmakers to transfer the program to the Division of Licensing to the Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services.

It was in Broward County that the shooting massacre at Marjory Stoneman High School in Parkland, Florida occurred, sparking a renewed gun control debate on whether the best way to protect our school children was to post armed guards, allow teachers who were ex-cops or ex-military to have access to defensive firearms or just continue with insane practice of allowing schools and other soft targets o remain gun-free zones giving armed predators free rein to stalk their unarmed victims.

Gun control was a major issue in Florida in 2018 and the Democratic candidates for all three contested offices made it clear they were no friends of the Second Amendment or the right of self-defense:

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TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; florida; gun; nra; secondamendment

1 posted on 11/13/2018 3:36:36 PM PST by Starman417
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To: Starman417

“They forget the countless lives saved by defensive gun use...”

They don’t forget anything, they refuse to acknowledge inconvenient truth.

There, I even hijacked Al Gore’s spiel.

2 posted on 11/13/2018 3:58:00 PM PST by Blue Collar Christian (Socialism is for losers.)
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To: Starman417

Every Democrat running for Florida Governor was slobbering bubbly froth at the Democrat debate to prove he or she was more anti gun rights than every other candidate.
Floridaisin deep trouble.

3 posted on 11/13/2018 3:58:43 PM PST by Sasparilla ( I'm Not Tired of Winning)
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To: Starman417

That is what Dan Bongino said yesterday...gun control is what the Leftists are really after.

4 posted on 11/13/2018 4:02:28 PM PST by madison10
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To: Starman417

Dan Bongino’s podcast yesterday was all over this.

5 posted on 11/13/2018 4:02:41 PM PST by Dr.Deth
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To: Dr.Deth

Bongino knows what he is talking about.

6 posted on 11/13/2018 4:11:27 PM PST by madison10
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To: Starman417

If the communist wins the Ag job, we will push like hell to remove all gun issues out of her control. And with DeSantis as gov, we’ll get it done. We still control the legislative branches, and FL is still big on guns.

7 posted on 11/13/2018 4:27:17 PM PST by Basket_of_Deplorables ("Trust Sessions!" Bwaaahaaahaaa! Fools.)
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To: Starman417

Anti gun forces have had their eyes on Florida since the late 1970s.

8 posted on 11/13/2018 4:34:45 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Dr.Deth

I’m glad Dan is all over this. We in FL who pay close attention are aware as well. VERY aware. If Gillum and the commie chic won, we’d be seriously boned.

DeSantis WILL win. The commie Ag beyotch, we can handle.

9 posted on 11/13/2018 4:36:59 PM PST by Basket_of_Deplorables ("Trust Sessions!" Bwaaahaaahaaa! Fools.)
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To: madison10
Dan Bongino explained the election fraud very well,
and explained how they were really about keeping a Democrat in charge of the Agricultural Commissioner's Office.

As the linked article stated showed:
10 posted on 11/13/2018 4:55:57 PM PST by Yosemitest (It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Starman417

This issue is EXTREMELY HUGE for me.

My wife and I have saved our money for the past 10+ years to buy a beautiful piece of land in Okeechobee ... which we did in 2017.

We are planning to build a home there and move hopefully by 2020 or 2021.

Living in NH, we are a Constitutional Carry state and have virtually no restrictions period. My passion is shooting and reloading and love the club I am currently a member at.

Okeechobee has a nice club near by which I will join once we are down there.

Now this past election has thrown a HUGE monkey wrench into our plans. If I can not get a Concealed Carry permit in FL, if I can not bring my firearms to FL ... we will be forced to sell our property we so dearly love.


and ... looking at what happened in NH during the election


11 posted on 11/13/2018 5:45:24 PM PST by CapnJack
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To: CapnJack

The same thing that is happening all over the country - the success of Ted Kenbedy’s plan to fill the country with 3rd world immigrants who will turn the US into a socialist s***hole like the ones they came from. Texas newspapers are glitzing about how many Hispanics are voting, and how that will turn Texas blue in 2020. All the anti-white rhetoric you hear? It’s soon to be turned into actions.

12 posted on 11/13/2018 7:28:51 PM PST by Pining_4_TX (..Do not be frightened, and do not be dismayed, for the Lord your God is with you.. Joshua 1:9)
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