Did you know that replacing the factory gas block on your AR-15 with an adjustable gas block can improve your rifle’s performance? Such as: Posted on 11/16/2018 5:30:27 AM PST by w1n1
Did you know that replacing the factory gas block on your AR-15 with an adjustable gas block can improve your rifle’s performance? Such as:
-Less recoil, results in a faster follow-up shot.
-Less stress on the operating parts.
-Less carbon build-up, better reliability and easier cleaning.
The concept of an adjustable-gas system has been around for quite a while. Competition shooters using M1 Garand rifles, a semiauto first used in the US military in 1936, found utility in adjustable gas plugs to regulate the cycling of the action by letting out a little extra gas. Perhaps the most prolific use was in the FN-FAL (Fabrique Nationale-Fusil Automatique Légerseries, a Belgium manufacturer) rifles developed after World War II. On the FNs, the amount of gas released out of the gas cylinder as the piston was cycling could be adjusted by hand, which controlled how much gas pressure was applied to the piston.
This is similar to what the M1 competition shooters were doing with their adjustable gas plugs. The normal procedure is to tune down the gas pressure until the gun doesn’t fully cycle, then tune it up one click at a time until it cycles reliably, then go a few clicks further for reliability and you’ll be in the optimal zone.
This way the gun is reliable with the least amount of recoil and stress possible, and it can be tuned to a specific type of ammunition as well. Read the rest of best adjustable gas block.
AR-15s have a recoil? Who knew?
Adjustable gas blocks are designed to do none of those things.
They are for using suppressors. They are also for precision shooting so you can dial in the pressure for whatever type of ammo you want to use.
The gun advice on FR is getting ridiculous.
“AR-15s have a recoil? Who knew?”
I know, especially after shooting my low end mossberg maverick 12 ga. pump then shooting my AR, the AR recoil is pretty nonexistant. lol
Adj gas manifolds are the result of poor manufacturing processes. Most AR barrels are ported with too large gas ports, one size does not fit all, as operating pressures from too large for design situations result in overly energetic bolt/carrier action, you are problems include extraction under pressure, BCG overspeeed, and feeding problems.
Rifle length ports should be .09-.096, mid length .08-.085, carbine .06-.065.
The design port pressure for a rifle length system is 12k PSI, mid length ports pressure runs around 18k, and carbine at around 26k. All with saami or NATO 223rem /556 ammunition.
Most after market barrels are drilled with rifle sized ports. Hence all the issues.
I put one on my self-built groundhog gun. After developing a good handload and dialing everything in, I locked it down with red locktite. I probably didn’t need the adjustable block, but what the heck.
My daughter didn’t mind when she was 9.
3 gun competition users also use them for faster follow up shots. Winning and losing can be separated by fractions of seconds at high levels.
You are correct that their biggest advantage is for suppressors.
yep, suppressors change things.
My father-in-law needs a gas block.
Post No. 5 by manly warrior is the only input so far that has any merit. The facts are:
1. No device that does not decrease projectile velocity can reduce recoil. Sir Isaac Newton settled that issue eons ago with his famous Conservation of Momentum equation of M1V1=M2V2.
2. Adjustable gas blocks serve a purpose unrelated to Suppressor functioning or effectiveness.
3. Adjustable gas blocks are used primarily to throttle the impinging combustion gas with some ammunition loadings back to the point where premature extraction(PE) does not occur. That can damage the shellcase rim to the point of the extractor tearing off a portion of the rim and leaving the remaining shellcase stuck in the chamber.
4. PE is caused by both the gas pressure and gas volume released into the Gas Tube.
5. The gas pressure and gas volume are a function of three factors.
a) Location of the Gas Port. The closer to the chamber, the higher the pressure. That also affects the timing of when shellcase extraction begins.
b) The size of the Gas Port. Self explanatory.
c) How much barrel exists ahead of the gas port. That determines the amount of time the combustion gas has to enter the Gas Tube. Carbine length barrels have considerably more length ahead of the Port and therefor more time for the combustion gas to impart excessive velocity to the Bolt Carrier Group.
Back to Newton's Conservation Equation, PE can also be moderated by increasing the mass (weight) of the entire Bolt Carrier system, including the Buffer. Heavier Buffers and/or Bolt Carriers will decrease the velocity of the Bolt Carrier group and minimize PE and long term gun damage.
A heavier Recoil Spring can also slow down the Bolt Carrier Group.
You can determine the amount of PE your gun produces by examining the underside of the rim on fired shellcases. If the Extractor has left an impression, you have some degree of PE. That can be fixed as described above. Or you can use the type of ammunition for which your gun was designed.
If you converted one to a single-shot in 300 Magnum, there is a slight increase.
John, is that you?
Everything you just said there is an agreement to my post, which you somehow think I’m a schmuck for bringing up.
The second notion in my post was that accuracy-centric shooters will tune their firearm for the specific ammo they are using.
You spent a few paragraphs going into more detail, but lead off with a typical FR assault on my intelligence. Again, completely unwarranted.
Please start to talking to people like they are human beings and not just letters on a screen.
If you don't want folks questioning your intelligence, you should learn the subject to the degree that your knowledge and intelligence isn't questioned.
Your Ad hominem attack on me instead of discussing the technical issues further documents your inability to deal with real people and facts.
Even though people agree with me.
Thanks for the lesson, teach.
I read about shooters trying to increase bolt cycle velocity so they could get faster follow-up shots. When you do the math, one needs to have a reaction time faster than 1/30 sec to benefit from a faster than stock cycle time. So, in my economy, the only folks making out are the ones selling lightweight carriers, and all sorts of tweaked small parts to make such a gun cycle reliably.
Regarding Adj manifolds, there is a benefit when using a suppressor- but not as much as some would suppose. The bullet is gone, BCG is beginning to move and the system is bleeding gas to ambient at a fast rate from three points- muzzle of the can, the breech and gas port. The trade off is once you set it for your load, your rifle may not be reliable with any other ammunition. A bit if extra gs bleeding out the breech is not something to die for, hobbyists, well, that’s who all the boutique stuff is made for.
and get the bolt speed up to fast you run into the problem of out running the magazine spring
And the bolt catch spring. I shoot Service Rifle High Power, and many of us use heavy loads with 75/77 mag length for short line and rapids, and 80/82 or even 90 for 600. The best solution in my experience for the AR15 system has been a Tubb Carrier Weight system and a CS flat wire action spring. More inertia to move, and a slightly stiffer spring to resist, bolt carrier moves slower but with more force, brass life ( when you use Lapua brass, brass life matters) increases, reliability improves ( most matches are no-alibi events, so if you kit fails, each lost shot costs 10 points in a game where the winners are decided not by points but by Xs). Superior Shooting Systems makes these components.
BTW, I also use the same rifle in 3 gun and steel/PRS, and bolt speed has never been an issue- hits count, follow up shot in action/precision games often are the result of misses ;>)
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