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1 posted on 11/19/2018 8:48:31 AM PST by deandg99
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To: deandg99

Start dispersing caches. Start preparing (if you have not already done so)


2 posted on 11/19/2018 8:50:03 AM PST by Centurion2000 (Coming in from the cold .... been a LONG while.)
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To: deandg99

If gun owners voted as a block, none of this would be happening. It amazes me that gun owners are voting for Dem candidates.


3 posted on 11/19/2018 8:53:13 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: deandg99

This will not be pretty.


4 posted on 11/19/2018 8:53:34 AM PST by hadaclueonce ( This time I am Deplorable)
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To: deandg99

Not a problem. Just require the relative that is making the accusation precede the officers in the door by 5 minutes. Just to explain what is about to happen.


6 posted on 11/19/2018 8:55:32 AM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: PROCON

Ping.


8 posted on 11/19/2018 8:56:20 AM PST by TADSLOS (Six out of seven dwarfs arenÂ’t happy.)
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To: deandg99

Ordering confiscations of private property and actually “achieving” them are two very different things. Very very different. Especially when it comes to firearms, obviously. Just how stupid are these Nazi/ Dimocraps, anyway? Can they even be that stupid???it doesn’t seem possible


9 posted on 11/19/2018 8:56:41 AM PST by faithhopecharity ("Politicians aren't born, they're excreted." -Marcus Tillius Cicero (3 BCE))
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To: deandg99

I’ve lived a good long life, and I would like to keep living it until the good Lord calls me home. However, if they come for my guns, I will shoot them. This is simply a fact. The first few through the door won’t be going home that night. Consider that carefully before you come to take my guns.


18 posted on 11/19/2018 9:22:43 AM PST by bk1000 (I stand with Trump)
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To: deandg99

SITYS /s

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3706917/posts?page=9#9

In all seriousness, considering that my home state of Oregon ranks worst in the nation for mental health and one of the worst for military retirees, FReepers should be watching what happens here like a hawk.

MAKE NO POST ANYWHERE ABOUT EMOTIONAL STATE WHICH DEVIATES TO MELANCHOLY FROM HAPPY, SARCASTIC, CRITICAL AND/OR CYNICAL.

I wish that were sarcasm. I really do.


20 posted on 11/19/2018 9:30:55 AM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: deandg99

If Trump signs any such law, he can kiss 2020 goodbye.


22 posted on 11/19/2018 9:33:32 AM PST by JenB987
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To: deandg99

how long before our country adopts ‘Red Flag Laws’ concerning the 1’st amendment? How long before liberal relatives turn us in to state police for saying either pro-Republican statements or Pro-Christian Statements?


25 posted on 11/19/2018 9:43:27 AM PST by Bob434
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To: deandg99; All
Beware of underestimating what master deal-maker Pres. Trump can do with a gridlocked Congress.

Dem noise for gun control laws probably amounts to campaigning for 2020.

Dems probably aren’t going to get their gun control laws any more than Trump got his wall in his first two years in office imo.

Note that unconstitutional federal healthcare for illegal immigrants could have paid for the wall imo.

How American Citizens Finance $18.5 Billion In Health Care For Unauthorized Immigrants

Insights welcome.

Also, consider the following major constitutional problems with gun control laws from a related thread.

”… National Firearms Act of 1934 and Gun Control Act of 1968 [???]"

FR: Never Accept the Premise of Your Opponent’s Argument

As mentioned in related threads, since Pres. Trump and patriots are forced to deal with an unconstitutionally big federal government until Trump finishes draining the swamp, patriots will need to check every action of the feds against Congress’s constitutional Article I, Section 8-limited powers to make sure there’s a clause that reasonably justifies an action of the feds, the misguided DOJ defining arms in this example.

After all, the corrupt, post-17th Amendment ratification Congress infamously has a track record for not policing itself with respect to its Section 8-limited powers, most federal domestic policy based on stolen state powers.

Regarding federal civil penal firearms laws, patriots are reminded not only that the 2nd Amendment is clearly not a delegation of power to the feds to regulate civil firearms, but that gun-relevant clauses in Section 8 give the feds the power to deal only with military-related firearms, Clause 15 for example.

"Article I, Section 8, Clause 15: To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;"

In fact, the congressional record shows that constitutional lawmaker, Rep. John Bingham, had used an example of murder, a 2nd Amendment-related topic, to clarify that the states have never expressly constitutional delegated to the feds the specific power to make peacetime civil penal laws.

"Our Constitution never conferred upon the Congress of the United States the power - sacred as life is, first as it is before all other rights which pertain to man on this side of the grave - to protect it in time of peace by the terrors of the penal code within organized states; and Congress has never attempted to do it. There never was a law upon the United States statute-book to punish the murderer for taking away in time of peace the life of the noblest, and the most unoffending, as well, of your citizens, within the limits of any State of the Union, The protection of the citizen in that respect was left to the respective States, and there the power is to-day [emphasis added].” —Rep. John Bingham, Congressional Globe. (See bottom half of third column.)

Additionally, the Constitution’s Article IV, Section 2, Clause 2 not only indicates the scope of crimes that the sovereign states are authorized to deal with, treason included, but that criminals who flee a state are to be returned to the state having the jurisdiction of the crime for trial.

“Article IV, Section 2, Clause 2: A Person charged in any State with Treason, Felony, or other Crime, who shall flee from Justice, and be found in another State, shall on Demand of the executive Authority of the State from which he fled, be delivered up, to be removed to the State having Jurisdiction of the Crime [emphasis added]."

Also, regardless of Bingham’s official clarification that Congress has no express constitutional authority to make peacetime civil penal laws, even for murder, it is disturbing that federal civil gun laws started appearing in the books during the FDR Administration, FDR and Congress at that time infamous for making laws that blatantly ignored Congress’s Section 8-limited powers.

Franklin Roosevelt: The Father of Gun Control

Finally, when an uprising is determined to be an attack on the United States, the feds have the Article I, Section 8, Clause 15 power (shown above) to take charge of state militias to suppress the uprising.

However, Bingham’s clarification that feds have no express constitutional authority to make civil penal laws reflects on the Constitution’s Article IV, Section 4 which tells us that feds can intervene in domestic violence only by written request by top state government leaders.

"Article IV, Section 4: The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence [emphasis added]."

Corrections, insights welcome.

26 posted on 11/19/2018 9:45:45 AM PST by Amendment10
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To: deandg99

Dems are why the 2A was written to reinforce our God given natural right to protect ourselves from bad guys who are sometimes a citizen’s own government.


28 posted on 11/19/2018 9:47:55 AM PST by Boomer (The only good leftists are those who have 'left us' for another country)
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To: deandg99

With the coming Communist takeover in Colorado, Red Flag laws will only be the tip of the iceberg.


29 posted on 11/19/2018 10:02:43 AM PST by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: deandg99

Will not happen. If Trump signs such an infringement, he is signing off a bloody civil war.


33 posted on 11/19/2018 10:50:52 AM PST by backwoods-engineer (Enjoy the decline of the American empire.)
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To: deandg99

It’s not happening folks. The House will send all kinds of crazy chit to the Senate to get smacked down. By 2020 they will have shown their azz so bad it will be easy to get the majority back.


34 posted on 11/19/2018 10:57:45 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight yourr way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: deandg99

There WILL be blood!


37 posted on 11/19/2018 12:14:40 PM PST by Renegade
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Keywords:

“So far, roughly eleven states have these Red-Flag gun laws on the books.”

That means roughly 39 states don’t have red-flag laws. And the scribbler is not even sure that 11 states have these laws.

Anyway, pick up your fat ass and move away from commie states that may “roughly” have red-flag laws.

This stupid-ass article is clickbait for losers who want to run around with their hair on fire and scream: OMG!!!! WE’RE DOOOOOOMED.

Try again, loser.


42 posted on 11/19/2018 5:13:16 PM PST by sergeantdave (Teach a man to fish and he'll steal your gear and sell it)
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