Posted on 12/02/2018 3:16:11 AM PST by Libloather
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But Pelosi, huddled in her office in the second floor of the Capitol Wednesday afternoon, wouldn’t answer them. Instead, the California Democrat launched into a lengthy monologue about how successful she’d been throughout her career and how 2020 is a presidential year, so voters wouldn’t care who the speaker was next election.
“They went in hoping to begin some type of conversation about a transition to leadership and it never even left the ground,” said one source familiar with the conversation.
Pelosi and her three biggest critics are talking past each other — and it appears unlikely that they can bridge that divide.
The rebels, led by Democratic Reps. Kathleen Rice of New York, Seth Moulton of Massachusetts and Tim Ryan of Ohio, want her to go, or at the very least commit to passing the gavel by a certain deadline. But Pelosi doesn’t feel like she needs to and isn’t even considering such a concession.
(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...
Once Cortez is inaugurated, all bets are off.
LOL! Fascist-Progressives never back down, never apologize, and never admit they are wrong. They severely punish those who get in their way. Nancy will get even with those who foolishly opposed her.
Perhaps Cortez will sign legislation forcing Pelosi to step aside. And stuff.
I’m enjoying these evil people destroying each other. Though I regard these Progressive radicals as far more dangerous to the country.
Pelosi knows there is a fair chance she could become President after the House Impeachment concludes and the Senate RINOs going along to Convict and Remove.
“white privilege?”
What else could it be. There are plenty of FULLY QUALIFIED minorities - but Nancy is WHITE, and is about to be Speaker.
Can’t see any other reason.
Once Cortez is inaugurated, all bets are off.
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That would be in about 7 years, once the harebrained one reaches 35.
“Pelosi knows there is a fair chance she could become President after the House Impeachment concludes and the Senate RINOs going along to Convict and Remove.”
LOL. There aren’t the 20 RINOs needed to VOTE to remove Trump. Maybe 3 or 4, but not 20.
Now, don’t get me wrong. There are PLENTY of Republicans who would love to see Trump gone - probably 52 or so out of the 53, but they all know that a vote to remove Trump means that their run in the Senate is over...the next time they have to run, they will either be Primaried out, or they will be Voted out in November (when Republicans don’t show up to re-elect them).
So the only question in the Senate will be whether the Democrats can get to 51 votes (i.e., 4 Republican traitors) as a symbolic victory, because they sure as hell are not going to reach the 67 votes needed to remove Trump.
This was not a news article, it was a pep rally - combined with a little whistling past the graveyard.
You ae right, but the caveat is: how things stand now. Once the House Impeachment proceedings get in full throat with the extreme media amplifiers, they could and will try to create a situation where those Senators have little choice but to vote against DJT - perhaps a rock and a hard place situation sort of choice. Opportunities for “Profiles in Courage” abound.
The Dem controlled House is a battle of wits between the senile and the ignorant.
> because they sure as hell are not going to reach the 67 votes needed to remove Trump <
It all depends on what “evidence” Mueller can manufacture. If it is convincing enough - and damning enough - Trump’s support in the Senate could evaporate.
I see that as being unlikely. But back in 1972 who would have thought that Nixon would be toppled?
(you guys are saying about the same thing, so I’ll answer both at once)
First off, Trump will be toast if he double-crosses his base, such as selling out on Amnesty. He’s come close in the past, during the DACA crap, and the Dems will be dangling things at him this term, for sure. If he gets a bad deal, in OUR opinion, not his opinion, and agrees to it, then we’re through with him...at that point, Mueller could produce an unpaid parking ticket at get his 20 Republican votes to remove.
So Trump has to stay with us...and if he does stay with us, it will be virtually impossible for Mueller to produce anything that we’ll believe - short of audio/video evidence that hasn’t been doctored, clearly showing collusion - and I really doubt there is any evidence, since there hasn’t been any crime. Anything else, like Obstruction, Witness Tampering, etc., Mueller can suck on those as far as his base is concerned...and any Republican who turns against Trump on that crap will never see another term in DC.
So the BOTTOM LINE, as I see it, is that if Congress tries to Impeach and Remove Trump, one of three outcomes will happen:
1) They will produce hard evidence of real crimes and even his supporters will agree he’s a criminal and want him out.
2) They will produce crappy evidence of fake crimes, but Trump will still be with us, so the Senate Republicans will tell Mueller to shove it.
3) Trump will turn against his base on immigration, or something else really important (like gun control), and Mueller will be able to take him out on the flimsiest of evidence, and we’ll also be happy to see him gone.
I think #2 is going to happen, so Trump is safe, and we’ll be happy.
However, if #1 or #3 does happen, we would have already turned against Trump, so we’ll also be glad to see him go.
So whatever outcome occurs, it will still be what we want, given where things stand at the time. To put it another way, if 90% of Republican voters still support Trump, very, very, few Republican Senators will vote to remove him.
So whatever outcome occurs, it will still be what we want, given where things stand at the time. To put it another way, if 90% of Republican voters still support Trump, very, very, few Republican Senators will vote to remove him.
Or so the theory goes ...
I think a lot of Americans would consider that to be a coup.
No WAY is Pelosi going to step down. When she speaks about “the gavel”, she gets glassy eyed and practically orgasmic. (And I’ll stop there, as there are teenagers on this site.)
Yep, but I am open to other possible outcomes.
“white privilege?”
What else could it be. There are plenty of FULLY QUALIFIED minorities - but Nancy is WHITE, and is about to be Speaker.
Can’t see any other reason.
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I can’t either. Do you think if we expanded the celebration of Black History month to an entire year, that would help?
ABSOLUTELY. Anything to get her attention.
It’s ABOUT TIME that white Democrats realize that it’s GAME OVER for them, and now new blood is taking over, and IT IS NOT WHITE. So they need to put their RACISM aside and simply move out of the way - they had their turn, but it’s over now.
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