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John Dingell: to fix Congress, abolish the Senate
VOX ^ | December 4, 2018 | Dylan Matthews

Posted on 12/06/2018 1:16:25 PM PST by C19fan

John Dingell knows a thing or two about how Congress works. First elected to the US House of Representatives at age 29 in a 1955 special election, Dingell left office in January 2015, nearly 60 years later. The last president he served with, Barack Obama, was born six years after Dingell entered office. His tenure was the longest in the history of the House or Senate, outlasting stalwarts like Strom Thurmond and Ted Kennedy by more than a decade.

So his call to abolish the Senate, announced in an Atlantic excerpt from his new memoir, is pretty notable.

He pairs the proposal with a set of more familiar, often vague good-government suggestions, like “the elimination of money in campaigns,” automatic voter registration, and “protection of an independent press.” Abolishing the Senate is far more specific and dramatic than the rest of his list. His argument is familiar, rooted in the institution’s failure to equally represent Americans regardless of where they live:

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TOPICS: History; Politics
KEYWORDS: congress; constitution; dnctalkingpoint; dnctalkingpoints; dylanmatthews; johndingell; mediawingofthednc; michigan; partisanmediashills; presstitutes; smearmachine; theatlantic; vox
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If you want a majoritarian democracy just get rid of the current Congress, POTUS, and SCOTUS and replace it with a parliament. We can even invite the British monarch to become head of state of the Kingdom of America and send over Harry and Meghan to serve as Governor-Generals.
1 posted on 12/06/2018 1:16:25 PM PST by C19fan
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To: C19fan

The only good thing I can say about Dingell is that he was almost always on the right side of the Second Amendment, and usually had an A+ rating from the NRA.


2 posted on 12/06/2018 1:19:02 PM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: C19fan

Somehow I suspect if the Senate was Democrat and Congress was Republican that he’d be calling for the abolishment of the Senate.

Regardless there’s a certain amount of truth - the Senate, and envisioned, was the House of Lords - beholden to the states. Congress was beholden to the people. Making the senate members elected directly was stupid and made the house redundant.


3 posted on 12/06/2018 1:20:11 PM PST by Skywise
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To: C19fan

The man sounds senile.


4 posted on 12/06/2018 1:21:07 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: C19fan

What Dingell wants is a totalitarian one party Leftist state and I am sure VOX agrees with him.


5 posted on 12/06/2018 1:21:11 PM PST by Bayan
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To: C19fan

Wow! He IS as stupid as he looks!


6 posted on 12/06/2018 1:21:16 PM PST by HombreSecreto (The new Oldsmobiles are in early this year)
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To: C19fan
To partially fix Congress, don't let one family totally own the voter slaves on their (Congressional District) Plantation given to them by TPTB for at least the last 86 years....
7 posted on 12/06/2018 1:22:39 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: C19fan

To fix Congress, abolish the Democrats.


8 posted on 12/06/2018 1:23:26 PM PST by Trump_the_Evil_Left (FReeper formerly known as Enchante (registered Sept. 5, 2001), back from the wild....)
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To: C19fan

“John Dingell knows a thing or two about how Congress works”

The headline says otherwise.


9 posted on 12/06/2018 1:23:36 PM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: C19fan

Sure. This is how it starts.

Abolish the Senate, then call for a “new Constitution”.

Then they can have the “People’s Republic of America”, with complete one party (Democrat) control.

Once they flood the country with the same mindless stupid people that turned their own countries into Banana Republics, the stage will be set.


10 posted on 12/06/2018 1:24:21 PM PST by LibFreeUSA
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Dingle is close. Abolish the 17th amendment and we are on our way to better government.

5.56mm


11 posted on 12/06/2018 1:25:40 PM PST by M Kehoe (DRAIN THE SWAMP!)
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Term Limits.

One and done.

No more Dingalls


12 posted on 12/06/2018 1:26:23 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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Abolish the Senate, then call for a “new Constitution”.

No. You’d have to change or replace the constitution first.

13 posted on 12/06/2018 1:38:08 PM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you .)
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No. You’d have to change or replace the constitution first.

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It can be done. You just need 2/3’s of both houses of Congress and it must be ratified by only 50 states.


14 posted on 12/06/2018 1:44:46 PM PST by HenpeckedCon (Covfefe Trump!)
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To: C19fan

Anyone else think that calling for the abolition of the Senate just after the Republicans increased their majority in that chamber is a bit suspicious?


15 posted on 12/06/2018 1:44:54 PM PST by JewishRighter
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Senate can only be fixed by getting back to the State Legislators selecting the US senators.
The whole point was that state senators would represent the make up of the state legislature (i.e. all the precincts in the state having equal representation). It was never intended to be a popular vote where the big cities win/decide for the whole state.
16 posted on 12/06/2018 1:46:34 PM PST by LivingNet
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Dingle and Barry go together like pain and ass.


17 posted on 12/06/2018 1:48:04 PM PST by bigbob (Trust Trump. Trust the Plan.)
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To: Skywise
LOL, I know what you mean, but I think you meant to say "If the house was Republican and the Senate was Democrat, they would be calling for the abolition of the House..."
18 posted on 12/06/2018 1:51:38 PM PST by rlmorel (Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
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To: bigbob
dinglebarry

noun

A lump of (usually dried) feces stuck in the hair / wool / fur / legislative process etc. near the anus of an animal, including a human US citizen.

19 posted on 12/06/2018 1:55:00 PM PST by rlmorel (Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
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To: Skywise

Just a quiblle. The Congress consists of the House of Representatives and the Senate. When you write ‘Congress’, I think you mean ‘House of Representatives.’


20 posted on 12/06/2018 1:58:04 PM PST by bagman
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