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Can the Mad and Lonely Shooter Be Stopped?
Return to Order ^ | August 2019 | John Horvat II

Posted on 08/23/2019 6:31:02 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Recent shootings serve to highlight how we live in times that are violent and lonely. Young shooters are breaking the precarious rhythms of our daily lives with tragedy. We know little about them. However, one thing they all have in common is loneliness.

The Loner as Ideal Revolutionary

In times past, subversives would seek strength in organization and numbers. They would conspire with others to carry out their nefarious deeds. Intelligence services could trace links and patterns to uncover vast conspiracies.

The loner finds his strength in loneliness. He does not need or seek others. There is no organization or headquarters. He slips quietly under the radar until he unleashes his silent and irrational wrath. As with suicide bombers, the loner is willing to die in his first and final act. Society has little defense against his unpredictable movements. Law enforcement cannot take preventative measures in the face of a past of non-engagement.

There is not even a set of established beliefs for loners. What is erroneously labeled “white supremacist ideology” is usually a self-made mish-mash of contradictory (and often liberal) ideas with little rhyme or reason to them. Analysts like to refer to a process as “online self-radicalization.” Shooters’ “ideology” is more likely the scrambled ramblings of broken individuals who rebel against life and society.

Mass Producing Loners

What makes this scenario more frightening is that loner demographic is growing. Young people who normally become increasingly social as they mature are retreating into themselves. Society is mass-producing loners.

A recent YouGov poll of 1,254 adults 18 and up found that 30 percent of all millennials (age 23-38) feel lonely. It was the highest percentage of the generations surveyed.

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1 posted on 08/23/2019 6:31:02 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I think this is a crock. Most of these assholes are twitter whores or hanging out on some kind of social media. That ain’t a loner. IMO


2 posted on 08/23/2019 6:35:59 PM PDT by Equine1952 (Get yourself a ticket on a common mans train of thought))
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To: Equine1952

Look into the therapists.

Someone’s priming these scumbags and turning them out.


3 posted on 08/23/2019 6:37:32 PM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: 100American; 3D-JOY; abner; Abundy; AGreatPer; Albion Wilde; AliVeritas; alisasny; ...
Mass Shootings: the "New Normal?" (Dec. 2015)

PING!

4 posted on 08/23/2019 6:37:53 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Show me the people who own the land, the guns and the money, and I'll show you the people in charge.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

“Can the Mad and Lonely Shooter Be Stopped?”

Not in gun free zones.


5 posted on 08/23/2019 6:39:17 PM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: Equine1952

Most of them had someone in their life concerned about their mental health. It is next to impossible to get treatment for someone that is not willing to get help. It is not easy for those that are willing to get help either. That needs to change.


6 posted on 08/23/2019 6:42:27 PM PDT by Tammy8
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7 posted on 08/23/2019 6:42:57 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Show me the people who own the land, the guns and the money, and I'll show you the people in charge.)
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8 posted on 08/23/2019 6:43:25 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Show me the people who own the land, the guns and the money, and I'll show you the people in charge.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
No. Even Navin Johnson knows this.


9 posted on 08/23/2019 6:44:07 PM PDT by TADSLOS (You know why you can enjoy a day at the Zoo? Because walls work.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The Dayton killer had lots of friends.

And some mass killers commit murder as a team with their closest friends (e.g. the Columbine killers, etc.).

The media should stop demonizing “loners.”

Most loners probably have a greater chance of becoming victims than becoming violent criminals.

This is an important discussion, though. Thanks for posting the article.


10 posted on 08/23/2019 6:46:31 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: Bonemaker

“Can the Mad and Lonely Shooter Be Stopped?”

Not in gun free zones.
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I think you are right.

Start shooting the ‘mad and lonely’.

Hopefully, the MSM will report (I know, they are no longer reporters) the ‘stoppages’.

After a few of these, I’ll bet things drop off, a lot.

The mad and lonely are not unaware of the ‘News’, which triggers, and I might say ‘allows’ their actions.

So, apply counter-tactics.


11 posted on 08/23/2019 6:50:43 PM PDT by Scrambler Bob (/S liberally (oops) applied to all posts.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I posted this earlier on a thread about how some school is being constructed to make it harder for shooters to operate inside the school:

“Bad guys at times are not the brightest bulbs but like mice if you cover one hole up they will find another.

Here is an algo:

Bad Guy + Gasoline + Gas Can (or maybe a balloon?) + BIC Lighter + Yellow Thingy On Wheels* = A bad day for less than $25.00.

*There are 500,000 of these moving around twice a day outside of the “hardened” school building. They cannot be protected. Impossible”.

The notion that murder will stop if you take away the firearm tool that can be used to kill is just daft. There are so many ways to stop the meat sacks we live in from working that it boggles the mind. “Mind” being the key word. Evil devoids that are going to kill are going to kill and they will find other means besides gunpowder.


12 posted on 08/23/2019 6:51:59 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (Say what you will about The Donald, but he has all the right enemies.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I had the misfortune of crossing paths with a serial killer....Wayne Nance.

I went to the same high school as he did.

There was a series of murders in Missoula, MT.

Wayne Nance told my girlfriend that he had committed those murders.

She told me.

I told her to go to the school administrators because Wayne matched the description of the murderer.

She did and the police came and picked up Wayne.

They gave him a polygraph test and then released him.

I caught Wayne in the hallway at high school and stiff armed him to stop him.

I told him to stay away from my girlfriend.

Nothing from Wayne. He just walked around me.

A couple of days later, Wayne’s toady told me that Wayne didn’t like what I did and that he carried a big knife and would use it on me.

I told the toady to tell Wayne that if he pulled a knife on me, I’d take it from him and shove it up his ass.

I was in our school’s Martial Arts Club.

Never heard any more.

I am convinced that he meant to rape and kill my girlfriend.

He didn’t try.

He continued to kill. They keep finding new victims every few years.

Wayne wasn’t afraid of the police. They had him and let him go. He kept on killing.

Why didn’t he kill my girlfriend?

I believe it was because of fear.

He didn’t want a knife shoved up his ass.

That fear needs to reach all these jackass killers.

Yep. Wayne checked all the boxes. Daddy in prison. Started out killing pets. Satan worshipper.

The police knew it all, but he continued to kill.

Fear will keep them from killing.


13 posted on 08/23/2019 6:55:50 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Equine1952

Bingo. THese people have some kind of social or even authority support. THey call them Legion for a reason.

THe leftist universities sponsoring this kind of behavior certainly does not make them feel alone.

It behoves on the states that are not so crime ridden like Indiana to arm themselves against the inlet of Chicago gangs and tell Chicago to fck off, hands off our guns.


14 posted on 08/23/2019 7:24:20 PM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security in hatse:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: blueunicorn6

https://murderpedia.org/male.N/n/nance-wayne-nathan.htm


15 posted on 08/23/2019 7:25:51 PM PDT by Western Phil
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To: Equine1952

Yes, and beyond that, they are virtually all on drugs prescribed for mental issues:

https://www.naturalnews.com/2019-08-18-dayton-shooter-found-to-have-mind-altering-ssri-drugs-in-his-system.html

Lonely my behind. They need to eat healthy food, keep regular hours and do intense manual labor. Idle hands are the devil’s workshop, so put a shovel in them and put them out on a road gang in a hot climate. Watch how fast their mental issues and loneliness go away.


16 posted on 08/23/2019 7:31:32 PM PDT by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Can the Mad and Lonely Shooter Be Stopped?

Yep, a .308 to the head/chest region will stop them.

17 posted on 08/23/2019 7:33:10 PM PDT by BipolarBob (Heaven has gates, walls and immigration policy but Hell has an open border policy. Food for thought.)
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To: blueunicorn6
Over the years, I have taken several teenage boys on a drive recounting public information of about a teenage couple knew a bad actor and how he talked his way into their world.

How they were taken from Crime Scene #1 And taken to Crime Scene #2 where the couple were shot and killed.

The drive ended at two crosses at a river bottom road.

The point made was if you did not like/trust someone during the day, you really would not like them at night time.

One of these boys went into the military and then became a police officer.

I go over the heads of many here about Crime Scene #1 and going to Crime Scene #2.

One needs to do every thing possible to not end up at Crime Scene #2 where one ends up dead.

18 posted on 08/23/2019 7:36:04 PM PDT by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's fore sure)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

This isn’t going unless social media, the 24 hour news cycle, and smartphones go away. They sucked a lot of soul out of this country. That isn’t happening, so this isn’t going to stop.

Freegards


19 posted on 08/23/2019 7:45:39 PM PDT by Ransomed
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Restore God - the Creator and source of unalienable rights - to the schools, and outlaw Shariah.


20 posted on 08/23/2019 7:49:01 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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