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Big Bear Guns
Am Shooting Journal ^ | 9/2/20 | L Case

Posted on 09/02/2020 8:19:19 AM PDT by w1n1

In the Land of the Midnight Sun, those who traverse the Last Frontier must choose to carry or not carry, and they must choose wisely.

What are big bear guns that you would carry in Bear country? Here’s the short list with the full story below.


As I coast into what may be my sunset years, I have come to realize there are two kinds of people in this world. Some of us believe there are things out there that will hurt or kill you, and there are some who do not. A few of the things pretty high on my list include a summer lightning storm, a poisonous snake, a crazed terrorist and an 800-pound bear.
People on the other side of the aisle from me on this topic seem even more convinced that nothing in the animal kingdom would really cause them any harm. I beg to differ.

As I see it, it all comes down to this. Hunters, hikers, fishermen and country has a decision to make, and it is much more important than "paper or plastic." Are you going to carry a firearm, or not? Alternative "bear deterrent" in the form of pepper spray is also widely available, and the controversy of which is most effective – bear spray or firearms – remains alive and well.

The group of Alaskans that I spent time with a few summer ago landed decidedly on the side of firearms over bear spray. Some carry both, but they definitely want a gun available. As usually occurs in the gun world, if we decide we need a gun for some task, the question always arises. Which gun is best? Here are a few notes based on what I saw and learned on the firing line at the bear defense class in Wasilla.

"THE 12-GAUGE PUMP shotgun has been the choice of most people for bear defense in Alaska for some time," said Steve Nelson of Anchorage. Nelson has been teaching bear defense classes since 1978, when a USGS coworker was severely mauled by a black bear. "There are many reasons for the shotgun’s popularity. Shotguns and shotgun ammo are widely available, are generally less expensive than rifles, have magazines capable of holding several rounds, and with slugs they will deliver a big, heavy projectile," he said.

The Remington 870 outnumbered other shotguns in this bear defense class, specifically a tactical version with ghost ring-type sights. This is a quick handling shotgun that holds seven rounds and delivers the 870’s rock solid dependability. Read the rest of big bear guns.


TOPICS: Hobbies; Outdoors
KEYWORDS: bearguns; blogpimp; clickbait; momsbasement
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1 posted on 09/02/2020 8:19:19 AM PDT by w1n1
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Loaded for bear, I expect.


2 posted on 09/02/2020 8:22:37 AM PDT by LouieFisk
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To shoot your hiking buddy in the foot...

3 posted on 09/02/2020 8:24:00 AM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them.)
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To: w1n1

338 Win Mag rifle

Ruger Alaskan 44 mag revolver


4 posted on 09/02/2020 8:24:12 AM PDT by DOC44
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870 = 7 in the tube, plus 1 in the chamber.


5 posted on 09/02/2020 8:24:22 AM PDT by Blueflag
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I have a 458 Magnum safari grade with mussel brake that kicks about like a 30-06 with a 500 gr bullet. 375 Mag with mussel brake and 300 gr bullet still tears my shoulder off.


6 posted on 09/02/2020 8:29:09 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: w1n1

So, basically any 12 gauge shotgun in working order.


7 posted on 09/02/2020 8:29:20 AM PDT by circlecity
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Even though I’ve been reading this type of article for 60 years, I always learn a tidbit or two.


8 posted on 09/02/2020 8:31:04 AM PDT by Cold Heart (Legalize Hydroxychloroquine)
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I have a couple of Mossberg’s. I prefer autoloaders over pumps but, that’s just me. One of them is designed for close-quarters home defense.


9 posted on 09/02/2020 8:32:07 AM PDT by ocrp1982
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In actuality if you shot your buddy in the foot and kept running the bear is more likely to chase you than bother with your buddy.


10 posted on 09/02/2020 8:35:28 AM PDT by Seruzawa (TANSTAAFL!)
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I live in Alaska and spent much of my time in the bush, actually just got back from a caribou hunt this past weekend were we were 30 miles off an unimproved Road. I carry a Keltec KSG. It’s a 14 round capacity short, tactical shotgun. One tube I carry lethal, the other tube semi lethal. I want to have the option of hitting a bear and driving it away before it becomes an issue. The selector is always set to lethal, if I need to I can select semi lethal (rubber bullets) and use those. Love the gun!


11 posted on 09/02/2020 8:35:47 AM PDT by Bigbrown
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Corrosion resistance a plus, especially anywhere near the coast.


12 posted on 09/02/2020 8:36:15 AM PDT by gundog ( Hail to the Chief, bitches!)
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For protection; black bears: 3030 Marlin 336
For protection; big bears: 45-70 Marlin 1895

For hunting; any big ol’ cannon with a scope


13 posted on 09/02/2020 8:42:58 AM PDT by Born to Conserve
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12 gauge Foster slugs have a Taylor Knockout Factor comparable to .458 Winchester Magnum or .470 Nitro Express.

"The Taylor knock-out factor, also called Taylor KO factor or TKOF, is a formulaic mathematical approach for evaluating the stopping power of hunting cartridges developed by John "Pondoro" Taylor in the middle of the 20th century. Taylor, an elephant hunter and author who wrote two books about rifles and cartridges for African hunting, devised the formula as a means of comparing the ability of a cartridge to deliver a knock out blow to elephant from a shot to the head when the brain is missed." - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taylor_knock-out_factor

14 posted on 09/02/2020 8:50:05 AM PDT by Spirochete
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Reportedly, they kick like a mule, and bite like a crocodile!


15 posted on 09/02/2020 8:54:02 AM PDT by pingman ("I ain't in no ways tarred.." of WINNING!)
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That’s what oil is for.


16 posted on 09/02/2020 8:54:56 AM PDT by circlecity
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Well, it was just a joke...


17 posted on 09/02/2020 8:58:48 AM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them.)
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I have a Rock Island Armory VR-80 Semi-Automatic 12 Guage with a 20 round drum and can empty the clip in 3 seconds. WAY faster than a pump action. As my EOTWAWKI first weapon, I have it loaded with some Dragon’s Breath (Magnesium shot that burns at 5000 degrees). I could have the bear cooked medium rare before he hit the ground. :p


18 posted on 09/02/2020 9:00:01 AM PDT by RainMan (CW2 ... time to kick the Democrats asses AGAIN.)
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Because rapidly getting follow-up shots on target is a priority in a bear attack, I carry the S&W 686 7 rd. (.357) loaded with 200 gr. hard cast.

Confidence comes with practice and I just wouldn't fire enough rounds of .44 mag. or larger to attain that confidence.

Experience tells me that I can fire 3 rds. of 357 in the time it takes to fire 2 rds. of .44, and with far greater accuracy.

19 posted on 09/02/2020 9:01:47 AM PDT by G Larry (There is no merit in compromising with the Devil.)
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Just don’t use pepper spray and little bells. Lol.


20 posted on 09/02/2020 9:03:56 AM PDT by Seruzawa (TANSTAAFL!)
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