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THE MICROWAVE MAGICIAN
Popular Science ^ | 12/2007 | RENA MARIE PACELLA

Posted on 12/11/2007 9:06:07 AM PST by #1CTYankee

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To: #1CTYankee

I’ll believe it when I see a commercial version running. How many ‘free energy’ or ‘cheap energy’ devices have been promoted that came out to be scams?


21 posted on 12/11/2007 9:27:24 AM PST by mnehring
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To: #1CTYankee
Several years ago, Discover magazine had an article called "Anything Into Oil" that talked abut the same kind of thing. I was all excited about it. I really wanted it to be true.

But it never came to be.

So I'm extremely skeptical about this. Besides, if this guy invented his machine 10 years ago, why hasn't he sold thousands of them over the past decade?

22 posted on 12/11/2007 9:28:47 AM PST by grundle
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To: AnAmericanMother
Have fun...
   
Video of proposed perpetual motion machines...


http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=perpetual+motion&search=Search
23 posted on 12/11/2007 9:28:53 AM PST by DoughtyOne (California, where the death penalty is reserved for wholesome values. SB 777)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

Chagning World Technology never delivered on its promises. They keep saying they will do it “next year.”


24 posted on 12/11/2007 9:30:18 AM PST by grundle
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To: mnehrling

Yep. Changing World Technology talked about how they were going to build all these giant plants all over the U.S. They were lying - they never did it.


25 posted on 12/11/2007 9:31:19 AM PST by grundle
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To: DeusExMachina05; festus; AnAmericanMother; Beelzebubba
“Ummmm..hasnt perpetual motion been looked into?”

There are numerous reasons that this technology could fail — but, that doesn’t put it in the “perpetual motion machine” category.

Extracting energy from hydrocarbon sources is pretty standard fare. The process, as described in the article does not require any departure from standard physics

26 posted on 12/11/2007 9:32:42 AM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: nuke rocketeer; RockinRight; shbox; absolootezer0
"The quote about the ol companies asassinating him is a scam artist give-away, just like the 100 mpg carbs they have bought up and hidden all these years...."

Pringle said he started with about $450,000 - "that's a ballpark estimate" - of his own money. About 2,000 friends, neighbors and acquaintances have invested $3.5 million, buying shares, said his company's chief financial officer, Jeff Andrews. The company's shares are thinly traded on the OTC Bulletin Board.

I wonder how long his friends will stay friends.

27 posted on 12/11/2007 9:34:58 AM PST by #1CTYankee (That's right, I have no proof. So what of it??)
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To: Slapshot68

Chili, burittos, most anything with beans. Made a seven bean soup with ham that was di-no-mite. Best, N


28 posted on 12/11/2007 9:35:04 AM PST by nedlbndr
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To: redpoll
"Exxon and Mobil are going to kill the guy. What a load of crap. That statement right there makes me think this guy is a nutcase, not a legitimate inventor. (I hope I’m wrong, though.)"

Statements such as this makes one lose credibility. (unless your a Democrat that is)

29 posted on 12/11/2007 9:38:06 AM PST by #1CTYankee (That's right, I have no proof. So what of it??)
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To: redpoll
" In fact, the oil companies would love this microwave gadget, assuming that it works"

In fact, That's what the article says.

While we can argue what this guy actually meant by his assignation comment, he didn't say that the oil companies wanted to assassinate him, he said that he's been told they might want to assassinate him. Presumably by people who like to perpetuate the myth of the Big Evil Company
30 posted on 12/11/2007 9:38:24 AM PST by tfecw (It's for the children)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

Their plant in Carthage is still going, but they have had technical problems and the smell has many complaining. Their output hasn’t reached their benchmarks, and they are supposedly looking at Europe for their next plants.

I think it will be a great method of handling waste products in the future, but it will never replace the need for other forms of energy.


31 posted on 12/11/2007 9:42:50 AM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: #1CTYankee

Uh, ever hear of Maxwell, Newton, Physics, Thermodynamics, Carnot, any of this ?

You cannot get out more energy from a device than what you put into it.


32 posted on 12/11/2007 9:50:55 AM PST by Ouderkirk (Hillary = Senator Incitatus, Clintigula's whore...er, horse.)
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To: KarlInOhio

Those same petrochemical-based materials could probably be used more efficiently as fuel to a thermal generating plant, without the extra energy input of the microwave machine.


33 posted on 12/11/2007 9:54:48 AM PST by -YYZ- (Strong like bull, smart like ox.)
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To: Ouderkirk
Uh, ever hear of Maxwell, Newton, Physics, Thermodynamics, Carnot, any of this ? You cannot get out more energy from a device than what you put into it.

If your interpretation of this principle is correct, why doesn't it require more fuel energy to pump oil out of the ground than is provided by the oil?

Fact is, the feedstock provides the external source of energy. It's not necessarily a violation of the laws of thermodynamics to transition hydrocarbons from one configuration to another.

34 posted on 12/11/2007 9:55:28 AM PST by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: Ouderkirk
Which, by the way, I'm not saying the guy's got a working system... I'm just saying it's not prima facie impossible.
35 posted on 12/11/2007 9:56:17 AM PST by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: PeterPrinciple

shale is a rock, some shale has oil in it.


36 posted on 12/11/2007 9:57:46 AM PST by taxcontrol
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To: KarlInOhio

If this turns out to be a cheap way to process oil shale, he might have something.


37 posted on 12/11/2007 10:05:09 AM PST by Ingtar (The LDS problem that Romney is facing is not his religion, but his recent Liberal Definitive Stands.)
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To: #1CTYankee; sully777; vigl; Cagey; Abathar; A. Patriot; B Knotts; getsoutalive; muleskinner; ...
Rest In Peace, old friend, your work is finished.....

If you want ON or OFF the DIESEL ”KnOcK” LIST just FReepmail me.....

This is a fairly HIGH VOLUME ping list on some days.....

38 posted on 12/11/2007 10:05:29 AM PST by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: Uncledave

Ping!...........


39 posted on 12/11/2007 10:06:14 AM PST by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: DeusExMachina05
Ummmm..hasnt perpetual motion been looked into?

Why yes, as a matter of fact it has! And have I got a ground floor investment deal for YOU!.................

40 posted on 12/11/2007 10:07:29 AM PST by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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