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Posted on 09/16/2008 11:17:36 AM PDT by Greboo

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1 posted on 09/16/2008 11:17:37 AM PDT by Greboo
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To: Greboo

Got kids?

Got milk?

Got lots of $$$ invested in frozen meat?

As you point out,iIce isn’t life or death, but it can still be quite useful when the power is out.


2 posted on 09/16/2008 11:20:46 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (I've left Cynical City... bound for Jaded.)
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To: Greboo
People have these things called "freezers". Many are filled with a substance called "food". When the electricity is out, the freezers don't work and it's possible that the food will spoil.

A few pounds of ice could prevent a few hundred dollars worth of food from spoiling. Pretty good return on investment.
3 posted on 09/16/2008 11:22:09 AM PDT by Question Liberal Authority (Pontius Pilate voted "Present")
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To: Greboo

This is TX, in summer. Ice can be a necessity. People get heat stroke in that place in summer.


4 posted on 09/16/2008 11:22:53 AM PDT by I still care (A thousand screaming Germans, some fake columns and swooning girly-men does not a campaign make.)
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To: Greboo; tx_eggman

I have had a struggle with this one, too, and I am in Houston and still currently without power at home. It has to do with keeping perishable foods chilled until it can be eaten or until the power comes back in. And probably keeping the beer cold, as well. Hey, ya gotta have priorities.

I personally thinned out my frig of perishables, and have a propane camp stove to boil water... cup of soup, instant noodles, etc., so I haven’t “needed” any ice.

Plus, I’d rather eat mud than go stand in line at the distribution points.


5 posted on 09/16/2008 11:23:08 AM PDT by SpinnerWebb (Islam ... If you can't join them, beat them.)
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To: Question Liberal Authority

Also, some people require refrigeration to keep life-critical medicine (e.g., insulin for diabetics).


6 posted on 09/16/2008 11:23:30 AM PDT by NonZeroSum
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To: Greboo

Also, it should be noted that ice can be manufactured on the spot. You don’t need to haul it in from across the country, as you would with fresh perishable food.


7 posted on 09/16/2008 11:23:34 AM PDT by Question Liberal Authority (Pontius Pilate voted "Present")
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To: Greboo

As people get older, the bodies temperature regulation system often fails. this is why in european countries where air conditioning is uncommon, heat waves produce thousands of deaths. In The US many there are many people who would die without air conditioning.
In Germany they would have died years ago.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_European_heat_wave


8 posted on 09/16/2008 11:25:10 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Greboo

No, you were not happy with lukewarm water.


9 posted on 09/16/2008 11:26:26 AM PDT by txhurl (Denali/Bolton)
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To: Greboo

I note that your home page is mute with regards to your location.

I would guess that you don’t live anywhere it really gets hot.


10 posted on 09/16/2008 11:29:32 AM PDT by null and void (When you bang your forehead on the ground five times a day, you get brain damage.)
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To: NonZeroSum
Also, some people require refrigeration to keep life-critical medicine (e.g., insulin for diabetics).

Good point. My dad was diabetic and had to keep his insulin refrigerated. When he traveled he took a small travel cooler with an ice pack in it. Also some liquid antibiotics (like the kind you give to babies) have to be refrigerated.
11 posted on 09/16/2008 11:31:03 AM PDT by Caramelgal (a small-town mayor is sort of like a community organizer except that you have actual responsibilies)
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I am in Houston and just got power back yesterday. Many areas still have no power. Ice keeps your food from going bad as quickly. We humans need food.


12 posted on 09/16/2008 11:34:37 AM PDT by avacado
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Former OIF vets like myself didn't even need Ice, we were quite happy with luke warm water. Someone please explain...

Insulin, opened bottles of formula, expressed breast milk, any number of things need refrigeration. Luke warm water is great for patrolling. But it doesn't do squat for perishable foods or meds.

13 posted on 09/16/2008 11:49:40 AM PDT by Tennessee_Bob (A prayer's as good as bayonet on a day like this.)
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…plucking people out of their flooded home's when they had been told numerous times over many media outlets, probably in multiple languages (for their own safety no less) to evacuate.

Keep in mind that the evacuation orders were for those areas right along the coast and in areas likely to get hit with storm surge. A lot of folks in the greater Houston area were not asked to evacuate, and even if they were, where are all the people in the 4th largest US city supposed to go and assuming that their house was not damaged or flooded, how long are they supposed to stay evacuated? The city of Houston expected their employees to be back at work yesterday as did a lot of business that weren’t damaged and could open up.

People right along the coast and in flood prone areas who were asked to evacuate and didn’t were IMO, pretty stupid and irresponsible.

But understand that when a good size hurricane comes ashore, even when downgraded to a tropical storm, it can cause power outages for many miles, sometimes a hundred or more miles inland.

In 2003 tropical storm Isabel caused a lot of power outages here in MD. I had friends who were without power for up to a week and the local utility company set up free ice stations and distributed not only regular ice but dry ice as well. A lot of times it’s the utility companies that provide the ice to their customers.
14 posted on 09/16/2008 11:53:22 AM PDT by Caramelgal (a small-town mayor is sort of like a community organizer except that you have actual responsibilies)
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Some of the people you see on tv have returned to their flood ravaged homes. I have several friends who did evacuate and now have returned to begin their cleanup and have no way to keep food and medicines at safe temperatures. And it’s always nice to have a nice cold refreshing drink when you’re working hard in the heat. I say this most kindly, don’t be so quick to judge. You can’t imagine what hell their lives are right now.


15 posted on 09/16/2008 12:04:18 PM PDT by McLynnan
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To: avacado
My family in Conroe drove quite away to be able to use the cell phone yesterday. They said that it probably will be weeks before they have the power on.

My nephew is a teacher, and said that the schools could be closed for two weeks.

Other parts of the Huston area didn't lose power at all.

16 posted on 09/16/2008 12:24:20 PM PDT by Coldwater Creek ("Read my lipstick")
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To: McLynnan

Sorta like denying someone in hell ice water.........

I guess one would have had to experience bad times to appreciate a little ice.


17 posted on 09/16/2008 12:27:16 PM PDT by Coldwater Creek ("Read my lipstick")
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To: Coldwater Creek

What’s the word on getting gas in Houston?


18 posted on 09/16/2008 12:29:17 PM PDT by IamConservative (On 11/4, remember 9/11...)
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To: Coldwater Creek

Maybe you have to walk a mile in their shoes. I’m proud of our fellow Texans — they aren’t whining, rioting and looting, but instead are quietly trying to pick up the pieces of their lives. They can have all the ice they want.


19 posted on 09/16/2008 12:33:27 PM PDT by McLynnan
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To: Coldwater Creek
Check out Bolivar Peninsula


20 posted on 09/16/2008 12:34:25 PM PDT by avacado
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