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The Real Trouble with Twilight. Christian author takes on Twilight and Eclipse
CBS47 ^ | 6-29-10 | cakid1

Posted on 06/29/2010 4:15:20 PM PDT by cakid1

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To: bigredkitty1
One word: Trekkies.

Five Words: Lord of the Rings Freaks.

One Acronym: LARP. Do a web search.

People not having a personal grounding in their lives fall prey to all kinds of nonsense, much of it devised by the Enemy who hates them and wants them eternally dead. Goth/Twilight/Gay/Lesbo/Wiccan/Witch/Warlock makes for a really happy lifestyle, don't it?

21 posted on 06/29/2010 4:55:49 PM PDT by Othniel (Meddlng in human affairs for 1/20th of a millennium.......)
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To: Perdogg
I heard one theory that “Twilight” was mormon propaganda.

However, it was banned from the LDS Church-owned Deseret Books after complaints from Church members about it's heavy content of teen activities that violated Church standards (e.g. Bella and Edward lying in bed together at night, after Edward has snuck in Bella's bedroom window to avoid detection by Bella's father), and a lot of other generally unwholesome stuff that isn't exactly "uplifting".

22 posted on 06/29/2010 4:56:24 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: cakid1
On bestselling author Steve Wohlberg says “...The real trouble with Twilight is that real teenagers are now being tempted by the alluring call of real vampirism

REAL vampirism??? If Wohlberg thinks there's such a thing as real vampirism, he's a *lot* more unhinged than the silly teenagers who are going through a phase of pretending to be vampires.

23 posted on 06/29/2010 5:00:55 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: cakid1

Where is your ‘barf alert’?


24 posted on 06/29/2010 5:02:00 PM PDT by 999replies (Thune/Rubio 2012)
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To: cakid1

From Steve Wohlberg’s web site:

“I woke up (on that June 2nd) from a very vivid dream. In my dream, two people were having an intense conversation in a meadow in the woods. One of these people was just your average girl. The other person was fantastically beautiful, sparkly, and a vampire. They were discussing the difficulties inherent in the facts that A) they were falling in love with each other while B) the vampire was particularly attracted to the scent of her blood, and was having a difficult time restraining himself from killing her immediately.” —Stephenie Meyer, her first dream that launched the Twilight saga.

“I actually did have a dream after Twilight was finished of Edward coming to visit me — only I had gotten it wrong and he did drink blood like every other vampire and you couldn’t live on animals the way I’d written it. We had this conversation and he was terrifying.” —Stephenie Meyer, her second dream after her first Twilight book was finished.

“Now in this day and age it seems impossible that anyone can believe in this nonsense [real vampirism], but in pop culture vampires are making a comeback in a big way. The blockbuster movie, Twilight is setting box office records on the big screen, while HBO’s True Blood is heating up the small screen… But vampires aren’t just tinsel town moneymakers, there’s actually a vampire subculture that exists in the United States right now and spreads into almost every community in this country.” —Sean Hannity, Fox News Report, Night Neighbors.

“We have clearly defined goals, projects, and activities that we both strive for and follow to completion. In addition to working with an assortment of members from our own community, we also consult with members of the media, law enforcement, clergy, and academia along with paranormalists, metaphysists, and those in related fields of interest to clarify the beliefs and viewpoints held by the majority of those who identify themselves as “real vampires.” —The Atlanta Vampire Alliance, quoted on their website (Mission and FAQ section).

“You shall not eat anything with the blood, nor shall you practice divination or soothsaying” (The Holy Bible, Leviticus 19:26, NKJV, emphasis added)


25 posted on 06/29/2010 5:05:22 PM PDT by Abigail Adams
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To: Perdogg

Unfortunately, some here on FR push the Twilight Mormon prop.


26 posted on 06/29/2010 5:07:37 PM PDT by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: Othniel; fieldmarshaldj; GOPsterinMA

I met a young lady today while getting my car fix, she had a bumper sticker that said “Pagans make better lovers”. I should have offered to test the theory. She also had an 0bama in 08 window banner - barf.


27 posted on 06/29/2010 5:08:47 PM PDT by Perdogg (Nancy Pelosi did more damage to America on 03/21 than Al Qaeda did on 09/11)
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To: cakid1

I am glad that I am not the parent of a teenage girl, if I was my kid would HATE me. Although I found the Twilight series pretty much mindless entertainment, it was pretty tame.
However, this craze that has developed and led to books like one I partially read recently called “Eternal Hunger” by Cynthia Eden. Listed as a ‘Paranormal Romance’ it was really more along the lines of one of those X-rated sex stories that are sent in to Hustler magazine. I am not kidding, VERY explicit and is the first book I have EVER encountered from a public library that should have had an adults only warning label.


28 posted on 06/29/2010 5:15:26 PM PDT by alexandria ("If this be treason, make the most of it!" Patrick Henry)
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To: Othniel
People not having a personal grounding in their lives fall prey to all kinds of nonsense, much of it devised by the Enemy who hates them and wants them eternally dead.

Actually, most of it is very demonstrably devised by for-profit companies who love the fans' money and want them eternally alive and buying the endless stream of obsession-feeding junk that said companies are spewing out to induce the fans to hand over their money.

29 posted on 06/29/2010 5:17:03 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: cakid1; mlizzy

Cheers!

30 posted on 06/29/2010 5:23:43 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Perdogg

“Pagans make better lovers” .... probably should have said, bigger lovers......


31 posted on 06/29/2010 5:27:41 PM PDT by correctthought (Hippies, want to change the world, but all they ever do is smoke pot and smell bad)
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To: Le Chien Rouge

When I was 16, I was obsessed, and I mean OBSESSED, with the Beatles. But I never was inclined to take drugs just because they did, or any other sinful things they talked about in their songs. (Half of the lyrics were over my head anyway.) I grew up very normal and a right-wing conservative who takes her Catholic faith very seriously.


32 posted on 06/29/2010 5:36:44 PM PDT by murron (Proud Mom of a Marine Vet)
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To: I still care
I think a young girl obsessed with Twilight is at risk for an unhealthy romantic relationship.

Edward give emotional whiplash and physical pain to everyone involved with him, yet he is represented as being the only possible love of this girl’s life. She actually throws herself into the sea out of desperation to be near him.

The girl seemed passive-aggressive and very manipulative. In the spirit of full disclosure, I was forced to watch this movie while enroute to Iraq. In order to prepare us for enemy psyops, they played it about 17 times. Where was Van Helsing when we needed him?

33 posted on 06/29/2010 5:39:00 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear (Does not play well with others)
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To: Perdogg

Yes, but the responsible adults should offer guidance.

I remember when my boys were younger, I would let them watch things on TV other parents wouldn’t, but I would sit with them and discuss what was going on from a rational, biblical point of view.

If my daughters wanted to read the books, I would talk to them about it. I would ask questions like, “What do you think about Bella’s judgement, when she is following someone around who’s told her he is dangerous and a bad guy?”


34 posted on 06/29/2010 5:42:28 PM PDT by I still care (I believe in the universality of freedom -George Bush, asked if he regrets going to war.)
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To: murron

I loved the Beatles also. But I’d hope you had an adult in your life that mentioned that the drug mentality was unhappy, and that running to India searching for gurus was foolish.

I remember actually discussing the Beatles with one son, who loved their music. We spent some time talking about that John Lennon had no decent parents and spent time casting about for something to believe in, but drugs, eastern religions and adultery were emotional dead ends.

This does not negate muscial genius, and we also talked about how people will give such people a “pass”- and how that can lead to destruction.

I always searched for teachable moments in the popular culture. The trick to doing it is to not make it a lecture, but a true moment of sharing.


35 posted on 06/29/2010 5:52:30 PM PDT by I still care (I believe in the universality of freedom -George Bush, asked if he regrets going to war.)
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To: cakid1
The books are "page turners" and are frothy, lightweight fantasy romance like some of those old fairy tales, Beauty and the Beast, etc. I didn't like the movies much, although the second was better than the first.

Not to mention that the books had a lot of intentional humor in them--and I don't mean the silly plot, but some pretty good gags. Edward is really something of a prude, grumpy, self-righteous and designed to be so. Bella is a terrible clutz. But she drives an old, rusty truck and holds down a part-time job, takes care of her dad, feels horrible guilt when she lies to him...

I think too much is being made of this. The book has many moral dilemmas, so at least the author knows about morals.

36 posted on 06/29/2010 5:56:26 PM PDT by Mamzelle (Cameras, cameras--never forget to bring your cameras)
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To: cakid1

Hilarious, if rude Twilight parody video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lu_PY405f40


37 posted on 06/29/2010 6:02:42 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Tzimisce

I’ve watched the Twilight movies with my 18 year old daughter. She’s constantly grousing about how stupid Bella is to choose Edward over Jacob.

And that’s the extent of it. She’s just as likely to be drawn to vampires as a result of watching these movies as she is to be drawn to Klingons as a result of watching TNG.


38 posted on 06/29/2010 6:58:20 PM PDT by Marie (Obama seems to think that Jerusalem has been the capital of Israel since Camp David, not King David)
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To: Mamzelle
I agree.
I am actually shocked at some of the pointedly ignorant comments made by some of the posters here.

Yes, I have read the books(I really enjoyed them) and watched the movies (they were not nearly as good as the books).

The “morals” to the stories are frankly obvious, and the storyline itself has no direct relation to the “occult”.
Standard good versus evil tale, with good winning in the end.
“Bella” is not being “stalked/abused/manipulated/etc”, just a fictional young woman acting like a typical teenager in love.
Frankly, I prefer my daughter read these type books than most of the crappy “pornography” that the publishing houses push as “romance novels” for teens.
Only a true “religious extremist geek” could read the book series and possibly interpret them as “evil/occult”.

39 posted on 06/29/2010 6:59:54 PM PDT by sarasmom (No incumbent re-elected, at any level of government office.(Period))
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To: Perdogg

Mormon propaganda?

I know you’re just joking but...did you know.

Sex does show up in ‘Breaking Dawn.’

Bella and Edward get married - and have a honeymoon.

Bella becomes pregnant with Edward’s vampire child.

Also a gang rape is alluded to in ‘Eclipse.’

Bella is taken advantage of by her best non-vampire friend, Jacob, who forces a kiss on her.

etc..


40 posted on 06/29/2010 7:08:18 PM PDT by cakid1
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