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The Military's Secret Shame (homosexual rape of men)
Newsweek ^ | April 8, 2011 | Staff

Posted on 04/08/2011 8:23:18 PM PDT by SaraJohnson

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To: WriteOn

hahahaha! My dad was a lifer in the Navy. When he was in the final stages of cancer and dying and not in full control of his senses he said to me, “Sara, swear you won’t let me be raped.” I swore to him that would happen over my dead body and even arranged guards - contracted nurses and family to watch over him every moment until he died.


61 posted on 04/09/2011 12:51:59 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: steve86

Is Newsweek trying to scare heteros out of joining the military, to further weaken the military?

I understand how you are upset. I can’t spend more than a brief time on a thread like this or I feel like jumping off the stern end of a ship at full speed ahead.


:) I understand exactly how you feel, steve. We don’t want our emotions manipulated by leftists.

What leftists do is take a grain of truth (man on man rape is happening in the military without proper response from brass) and turns it into a nightmare of “solutions” that promises more of the same abuse.

I know that Leftists don’t cover nor do they obect to men and boys being raped my men. They are telling you about this so that they can say “The rape of men in the military was happening before DADT.” That is because they know the truth about male on male rape will come out and they don’t want their social ememies blaming it on the repeal of DADT.

For you and me, we are stuck with an uncomfrontalbe truth that must be addressed. Men are raping men in the military on a large scale. The brass has adopted society’s carelessness for male prisoners who we all know are raped by men in prison. that attitude can be sumed up by saying “Ha ha! You deserve to be gang raped!”

Often just knowing something evil is happening is enough without following the gorey details that make you lose sleep. You will know when the balls of male and male rape are being busted and you will support that because, as a good and honorable man, you don’t want that evil attacking innocence in the military. Christians are a blockade to this spirit of rape and abuse so when we see the military move towards humanism’s banning of morals, you know to raise hell because you know where it has lead - the unpunished and even celebrated rape of targeted male soldiers. 50,000 of them.


62 posted on 04/09/2011 1:05:51 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: NWFLConservative

It’s only going to get worse since those two rump ranger benny boys Gates and Mullin got DADT repealed.


One thing I know. The left loves and even promotes the rape of heterosexual manly men. They never report on male on male rape. So why would Newsweek report this unpleasant truth about the modern culture of the military?

They are admitting it to set a benchmark. That is, male on male rape was the equivalent of prison male on male rape - before DADT was repealed. They will be able to say “the rape of men in the military existed before DADT was repealed.”

Otherwise, they would have ignored these male victims of homo/bi sexual rape in the modern military. They ignore that boys are being raped in the public schools right now. It is going to get much worse for soldiers once the sexually aggressive homos are let out of the closet and it is politically correct discrimination for the brass to object.


63 posted on 04/09/2011 1:14:18 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: txhurl

Got frag? If you don’t, you need to.


On the spot execution of these aggressive fags is tottally fine with me.


64 posted on 04/09/2011 1:15:56 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: SECURE AMERICA

You gotta be Fing kidding me.
What kind of people are in our military currently???
When I was in you would have had a corresponding number of dead homos


you have a politically correct military brass. The same mentality led to the jihadist murder of soldiers at Fort Hood. Did you think Patraous’s condemation of free speech in opposition to Islam was based in nothing? That was the world of a man totally committed to the insanity of politial correctness. Male on male rape...why would such a General give a crap about th glorious progression of out of the closet gay expression?


65 posted on 04/09/2011 1:19:00 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: NELSON111

It is a growing problem...and so are the number of prosecutions. It isn’t as widespread as male-female SA but it exists.


Thanks for sharing your professional witness of what is going on with male and female rape in the military. Let me suggest to you that women will tell you about bieng raped way more than men are willing to tell you. Men are ashamed of bieng targeted with gay/bi rape. Women are socialized to be not ashamed as they are seen as victims. Men are questioned as cooperators and are ashamed of themselves for being too weak to kick the ass of their perps.

I have two brothers in the family who were victims of rape in the boyscouts. It was a ring of adult male perverts who were expert in manipulating and injuring them. The damage to these males is way beyond the damage of a woman bieng raped by a man or gang raped by men.

It is hard to convey to you the nature of the damage to males who have been raped other than to tell you that it is a soul level injury that can never be repaired. If women who have been raped by men have a dozen of demons following them through life; men who are victims of homo or bi rape are haunted by legions.

That is the truth.


66 posted on 04/09/2011 1:27:55 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: usma1998; Netizen

This is a primer piece from Newsweek so that the public won’t be “surprised” by all of the harassment complaints that start when DADT goes into full gear. Didn’t you know the Army is just like prison?! I was in for almost 8 years as an officer. Secrets last about 15 minutes in a unit. This kind of crap wasn’t going on - plenty of other stuff does, but not this.


Netizen, this is total bullshit from a military guy who did not witness the rape of men. Beleive the testimony of soldiers who have been raped and ignore this denier.

Netizen, you know our society thinks the rape of men in prison is no big deal and even encourages and laughs about it. This the same exact society that the military shares.

USMA, how dare you deny the testimony of your own comrades just because you did not see the rape of soldier with your own eyes. I understand your suspicions of the intention of leftists (who promotes and love the rape of heterosexual men and boys and who hate the military because it represents the manly man - heteroseuxal man). But don’t you dare abandon the heterosexual rape victims of the society the Left has created. By accident of slogan, you will end up being a part of the problem rather than using your power to kick ass on that which liberals love and are promoting - the sexual abuse of men who are heterosexuals.


67 posted on 04/09/2011 1:35:39 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: FR_addict

There is a reason psycharity named homosexuals insane before medicine was taken over by political correctness.


68 posted on 04/09/2011 1:37:02 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: mmercier

US Code 10 G 654 possibly.
These guys and gals dump out more data than the frigging nyt.

Everyone knows how these things work out on the ground anyhow.


Will you please take the time to explain to me what you meant by the above statement?


69 posted on 04/09/2011 1:38:34 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: mmercier

Rape is subject to the death penalty.


I am all for killing the perverts on the spot.


70 posted on 04/09/2011 1:40:57 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: brityank; mmercier

Also meant to add, the UCMJ normally specifies that the respective penalty be determined after a finding of guilt by Courts Martial. This doesn’t list it as one of the possible results of a CM; there is no requirement of any legal action other than by a commanding officer’s discretion.


The repeal of DADT did not come out of nothing in the military. The politically correct brass pushed for it.

The article give the witness of abused male soldiers that the discretion of the commanding officers was not ignore the rape. I would venture to guess this is the same mentality of political correctness that permitted Hanson - a know Islamic Jihadist - to counsel returning troops, and ultimately murder troops at Fort Hood.

Political correctness is looking the other way and denying there is a problem on behalf of homosexual/bisexual perverts who are raping soldiers. Screw these assholes!


71 posted on 04/09/2011 1:45:48 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: jospehm20; usma1998

I agree about secrets in an Army unit. I got out after being an enlisted guy in the Army for 20+ years in 2004. I never heard anything about stuff like this in the Army. 50,000 guys? I also cannot imagine a CO telling a victim of something like this that it must have been his fault when he reported it. I call pure BS on it.


If told by Newsweak that the CO would permit a known jihadist at Fort Hood to “counsel” American soldiers after war, that would have been hard to believe, too. But, we have to see that political correctness has taken over the thinking of the military and did murder soldiers at Fort Hood and did denounce an American for burning a Koran in protest of the Victory Mosque in New York!

Likewise, they are condoning the homsexual rape of men because it is politically incorrect (risky) to say do otherwise!


72 posted on 04/09/2011 1:50:09 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: OneLoyalAmerican; Rembrandt; NELSON111

Your denial and refusal to recognize political correctness in the military is weak and ignorant.

Who would have ever thought the brass was afraid to derail a jihadist who was operating as a counselor to trouble soldiers at Fort Hood? They are doing the same with the homosexual rape of men. Whether you witnessed it with your own eyes or not, it is happening based on the testimony of soldiers who have been raped - even gang raped in the military. The brass have turned away not wanted to bring the heat of political correctness on themselves just like happened at Fort Hood.

Get your head out of your fanny quick. The left will kill the military with the political correctness of the brASS.


73 posted on 04/09/2011 1:54:44 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: REDWOOD99; Dilbert San Diego

How better to keep a young man from entering the military? Newsweak has done its job admirably.


Actually, when I realized the brass had been possessed by political correctness to the extent that they permitted a well known jihadist in the military to murder the soldiers at Fort Hood, I told my youngest son that military service was no longer an option upon graduation from college.

The political correctness of homosexual rape in the military only reinforces that decision. The mentality of political correctness is treason.


74 posted on 04/09/2011 1:59:21 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: StonyBurk

NOBODY should celebrate the corruption of our Armed Forces by the Presidential mandate to allow open sodomy within the ranks.


No one with a brain and any sense of character should deny the corruption that led to the jihadist murdering those soldiers at Fort Hood, either.


75 posted on 04/09/2011 2:00:57 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: dila813

Yes. These incidents are kept quiet to protect the dignity of the victim and to protect the suspect from being assaulted. No Commanding Officer wants to destroy moral on his ship so keeping these types of incidents quiet is a large part of the consideration. That is also one of the reasons that Captains Mast is used more often than a courts martial, it allows the Captain to get rid of the sailor quicker.


76 posted on 04/09/2011 4:52:09 PM PDT by usnavy_cop_retired (Retiree in the P.I. living as a legal immigrant)
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To: NELSON111

Sexual trauma will get you how much a month from the VA? These stories seem so contrived, however the sexual assault is now defined so broadly that the VA will be paying out billions to gals that were deployed and supposedly assaulted.


77 posted on 04/09/2011 6:37:27 PM PDT by MSF BU (YR'S Please Support our troops: JOIN THEM!)
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To: SaraJohnson

No, I had no trouble believing the Maj. Nidal thing. There is no way in the world I believe this. I have heard of incompetent and unstable servicemembers getting a pass for unacceptably crazy or stupid behavior before (see Major Metzger). I never heard a whisper about stuff like this going on in my entire time in the Army. I work around soldiers and spoke with a couple today and they did not believe it either. The easiest explanation is that Newsweek is full of it in this case.


78 posted on 04/09/2011 8:15:29 PM PDT by jospehm20
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To: MSF BU
Bingo. Those were my first thoughts when reading the article. I imagine that the whole service connected sexual PTSD thing could get you 100% from the VA. Somebody wants to get paid.
79 posted on 04/09/2011 8:26:17 PM PDT by jospehm20
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To: SaraJohnson
"Prove the story is false."

Prove how much truth is in the story.

"Better that squeaking slogans and smearing the messenger."

Useless personal attacks do not speak well for the points you are trying to make.

"You can not dismiss a rape just because a leftist brought it up. Evil hides and grows behind such ignorance. No doubt the “solution” to this problem for leftists will be designed to harm the military and will not help the male victims of rape in the military."

A strange conglomeration of babble-points. It is sensationalistic verbiage such as this which weakens any solid attempts to deal with the problem of homosexual rape, or any type of rape, in the U.S. Military. My comment about the anti-military historical stance of Newsweek still stands.

"But you pretending that male on male rape in the military is fine and dandy or not a problem - as you probably do with prison rape - is treasonous to the constitution and disgusting."

No where did I even intimate such a position. You are ludicrous in this allegation.

Many years ago, I, as a SSGT at an Army base had to investigate and document allegations about a certain Spec.4 regarding drug use and homosexual attacks on some fellow Soldiers. He was a rather large Black person and very 'street-smart.' His preferred victims were white Pvts, E-1's & E-2s who were new to the command and looking for some weed. He would befriend them, do a few 'favors' for them, get them as regulars for his weed connection and then have his way with them sexually.
He was busted and sent to Leavenworth. IMO, and that of quite a few others involved, NCO Justice with an AWOL and "dissapeared" report would have been more acceptable. But we were all professionals and worked within the system to remove this scum. Reports back from Leavenworth were that he did not adjust well there. He was no longer the big-fish. But he did adapt nicely to becoming someones bitch.

80 posted on 04/09/2011 9:36:48 PM PDT by Tainan (Cogito Ergo Conservitus.)
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