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1 posted on 04/13/2011 5:41:53 AM PDT by djf
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Bookmark for anticipated reference :>)


2 posted on 04/13/2011 5:45:13 AM PDT by libertarian27 (Ingsoc: Department of Life, Department of Liberty, Department of Happiness)
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I’ve been surrounded all my life by people who can their own produce. Forty years ago I did know one family whose members got botulism from bad canned goods. One family. Forty years ago.


3 posted on 04/13/2011 5:46:12 AM PDT by ottbmare (off-the-track Thoroughbred mare)
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We can every year and have never had an incidence of botulism.

If you follow the instructions and make sure all the jars ares are sealed properly, you shouldn't have issues.

4 posted on 04/13/2011 5:46:56 AM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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I have never had problems with pressure canning. Any lids that don't seal, eat the contents immediately.

Of course, it is much more fun to run through the forum screaming "BOTULISM!!!! WE ARE ALL GONNA DIE!!!!

"AND IT IS GEORGE BUSH'S FAULT!!!!"

5 posted on 04/13/2011 5:47:53 AM PDT by Redleg Duke ("Madison, Wisconsin is 30 square miles surrounded by reality.", L. S. Dryfus)
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It would seem to me that people are concerned with the leadership of this country today, and are preparing for the worst. One cannot blame them for being concerned after these past couple of years of the Obama mismanagement of our Nation.

There are many books available on canning to help anyone interested do it properly, and safely.


6 posted on 04/13/2011 5:48:01 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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Be smart and avoid the problem.

The bug is anerobic, but produces gas as it grows.

If the can/jar has a “bubble” on the top/lid, DON’T EAT IT.

Also, let your nose rule. If it smells bad, DON’T EAT IT.


8 posted on 04/13/2011 5:50:35 AM PDT by Mrs.Z
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We are suffering from an ignorance and stupidity tsunami.

Home canning is safe and easy. The trick is to can what is so over-abundant that your ability to consume it freshly would result in most of your stock rotting.

Stuff like tomatoes, pears, plums, beets, eggs, green beans, pickles, apples, carrots, and even monster size cuts of chuck roast or serloin. Canned beef is the absolute best!

A good rule of thumb is to can one jar for each day of the year to supplement what you may bake or cook that day. It's unrealistic to think canning will be the sole source of your diet.

Hint.........Dry beans, rice, root crops in a root cellar, dried fruit, dry fish and meat, dry milk, lard, coffee beans bought in 25lb bulk, sugar and flour in 50lb bags will keep you fed all year.

10 posted on 04/13/2011 5:52:40 AM PDT by blackdog (The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop)
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I have canned for literally 27 years. No botulism. In fact, I can honestly say (as with most canners) that our finished product is far safer than anything you buy at the grocery store. It isn’t a complicated process. It is simply about cleanliness, following directions, sterilizing the equipment and following simple directions. If something didn’t go “right”, the jar won’t seal. Personally, I think we have enough to worry about then someone canning peaches or making blueberry jam. IMHO.


13 posted on 04/13/2011 6:08:31 AM PDT by momtothree
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You do know that canning is 200 year old technology, right?


14 posted on 04/13/2011 6:11:29 AM PDT by magslinger (What Would Stephen Decatur Do?)
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I am a home canner and have been for years. There are very good articles on Backwoods Home magazine on the subject written by Jackie Clay. Here is one on canning meats in a pressure canner. http://www.backwoodshome.com/articles2/clay105.html At this link, you can read many many articles on the subject by Jackie, and she has tons of great recipes too. I recommend subscribing to the magazine.

I had been canning fruits and pickles in a water bath for years, but reading Jackie’s articles gave me the courage to venture into canning low acid foods like veggies, meats, stews and the like in a pressure canner.

The USDA has free online canning guidelines here: http://www.uga.edu/nchfp/publications/publications_usda.html


16 posted on 04/13/2011 6:19:30 AM PDT by passionfruit (When illegals become legal, even they won't do the work Americans won't do)
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Preemptive fretting. A cheap attempt to scare the little people back to being totally dependent on others for every scrap of food instead of being more self sufficient.


18 posted on 04/13/2011 6:29:29 AM PDT by theBuckwheat
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My whole family has been canning food since I was a little kid, and we have never had a case of botulism from anything.

For starters, anyone who cans food knows that a bulging canning seal means the food has spoiled, and if the food has spoiled it generally smells pretty bad and might even have mold in it.

Everyone I know who cans uses a good canning cook book and they follow the directions closely.

I would also point out that spare canning rings and seals are a must have item for any emergency preparedness pantry.


19 posted on 04/13/2011 6:31:34 AM PDT by Bean Counter (Stout Hearts!!)
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Keyword “survival” in FR search - lots of good info on various threads.


http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/survival/index?tab=articles

From last year.

Store or Starve A beginner’s guide to food storage
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2436113/posts

From 2009.

Survival in Place, Stocking an Emergency Pantry
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2370284/posts

Still being updated and started on:

Posted on Friday, July 24, 2009 5:37:21 AM by nw_arizona_granny

Weekly Roundup - Living On Nothing Edition [Survival Today - an On going Thread #3]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2299939/posts


21 posted on 04/13/2011 6:35:49 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (TX and MI - When the going gets tough, the dims run and hide.)
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Botulism normally kills so I don’t know anyone who has had botulism, and also it is very rare.

To prevent it you can correctly using the directions precisely, keeping everything clean and sterile. You wash the food like crazy using a brush, especially root crops because it is in the soil.

If you have any doubt about something you boil it for 20 minutes before you eat it.

Acidic foods don’t grow botulism and that is why you can can them with just a water bath method.

If you’re afraid, you could add a good dose of vinegar to everything, it would taste awful but it wouldn’t kill you.

People canned for years and botulism deaths were still pretty rare.


23 posted on 04/13/2011 6:39:34 AM PDT by tiki
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Some stuff (pickles) don’t need to be pressure canned...some stuff does. There are lots of books out there; and, I think the manufacturers of canning jars have instructions on their web-sites.

I would caution that if you live in the mountains, you might want to lean towards pressure canning even on foods where it isn’t required.

I’ve always assumed that a bulged lid would be an indicator that something bad was festering in the jar....and I have never had that happen.


28 posted on 04/13/2011 6:53:21 AM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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My only fear this year, is we will all be canning food with radiation from Japan...

Botulism is not the risk if food is canned properly.

Radiation is though.


29 posted on 04/13/2011 6:53:29 AM PDT by Freddd (NoPA ngineers.)
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When the SHTF there will be more deaths from ignorant first-time gun owner accidents than caused by bad, home canned food.


30 posted on 04/13/2011 6:55:32 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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I follow the instructions that came with the canner: http://www.gopresto.com/recipes/canning/vegetables.php

Never had a problem. Just process long enough for the vegetable and at a high enough pressure. I have a hard time keeping the pressure at exactly 11 pounds and end up processing anywhere from 12 to 15. Higher pressure is okay, lower pressure is not.

I’ve canned low-acid foods such as beans, collards, mustard greens, and soup stocks...haven’t killed anyone yet.


32 posted on 04/13/2011 7:06:13 AM PDT by Overtaxed
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Lehmans has everything you need, if you are interested in buying online. They also sell canning lids in bulk. This post reminded me that I needed to order lids for this year. I just placed my order. The lids are backordered, but I’ll be glad to have them when they come in.

http://www.lehmans.com/store/Kitchen___Canning_and_Preserving___Jars__Lids_and_Rubbers___Bulk_Canning_Dome_Lids___bulklids?Args=


34 posted on 04/13/2011 7:30:56 AM PDT by passionfruit (When illegals become legal, even they won't do the work Americans won't do)
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ALWAYS examine commercially canned cans before purchase AND before use. A damaged can may lose its seal. A bulging can should be thrown away immediately. Don't depend on anyone else to make everything safe.
35 posted on 04/13/2011 7:34:48 AM PDT by Nepeta
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