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Caught In Custody Fight, 5-Year-Old Boy Sent To Ireland
chicago.cbslocal.com ^ | July 10, 2012 | no byline

Posted on 07/11/2012 5:04:48 PM PDT by ransomnote

Updated 07/10/12 – 9:06 p.m.

CHICAGO (CBS) — A 5-year-old Orland Park boy at the center of an international custody battle was sent to Ireland on Tuesday to live with his father, even though he was born in the U.S. and has lived most of his life here.

Jack Redmond was born in south suburban Blue Island, and has spent all but a few months of his life in the United States. His mother, Mary Redmond, says the Chicago area is all the boy has ever known. His school, his doctor, his dentist, his friends — they’re all here.

Custody battles are messy, this one moreso because Jack’s parents were never married.

A United States federal judge has ordered that Mary Redmond abide by an Irish judge’s ruling and return to Ireland to live and share custody of the boy with his father, Derek Redmond. (Though they have the same last name, they were never married.)

Jack was scheduled to fly to Ireland on a 6:45 p.m. flight from O’Hare on Tuesday.

Tuesday afternoon, his mother spent a few last moments with her son, since she doesn’t know when she’ll see him again.

“I’m shattered. I’m shattered. This is our home, and I don’t want him to go,” she said.

Derek Redmond is Irish, and when the couple split, he filed for custody in Ireland. An Irish court and the World Court in the Hague ruled Ireland had jurisdiction over jack’s fate, and ordered he be shipped back to that country this week to live with his dad, even though Jack was born in the U.S.

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: chicago; citizenship; commitment; custody; custodyfight; dualcitizenship; hague; illinois; ireland; marriage
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"and the World Court in the Hague ruled"

And why are we to listen to the Hague? Has Obama bowed to them too?

1 posted on 07/11/2012 5:04:57 PM PDT by ransomnote
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To: ransomnote

I hope they treat him better than Lennox.


2 posted on 07/11/2012 5:07:03 PM PDT by Ingtar ("As the light begins to fade in the city on the hill")
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To: Ingtar

I’m surprised federales weren’t dispatched to kick open the doors to the family residence and brandish firearms at dangerous five year old boys a la Elian Gonzales.


3 posted on 07/11/2012 5:17:33 PM PDT by Repeat Offender (Why do cops have more lenient ROEs when facing us than troops in combat facing suicidal islamists?)
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To: ransomnote

“And why are we to listen to the Hague? Has Obama bowed to them too?”

It appears they were living in Ireland when they split, and had a joint custody arrangement set up by an Irish judge (seems reasonable).

She decided she didn’t like it so she left with the boy and came to the US (keeping him here, perhaps the real reason why he lived most of his life in the US)

Since she broke the law in Ireland by not abiding by the reasonable custody arrangement ordered by the Irish judge, she faces consequences if she goes to Ireland.

So nobody is mistreating this woman, she simply wanted it her way, the whole way, but got herself in a pickle. I’m guessing the father will be more reasonable and find a way for the kid to visit his mom, but that’s up to him.


4 posted on 07/11/2012 5:23:38 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: ransomnote

The lesson to be learned here? If you’re a US citizen never,*ever* have a kid with someone who’s a citizen of *any* foreign country unless you’re prepared to have that child taken from this country without your consent.


5 posted on 07/11/2012 5:26:38 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Jimmy Carter Is No Longer The Worst President Of My Lifetime)
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To: Gay State Conservative

So,,,,your saying Fathers should have no rights regarding custody of thier children?


6 posted on 07/11/2012 5:30:47 PM PDT by Craftmore
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To: RFEngineer
So nobody is mistreating this woman, she simply wanted it her way, the whole way, but got herself in a pickle.

One thing that isn't mentioned in this piece but,I'll wager,is a huge factor is the fact that Europeans have *enormous* contempt for the US justice system...courts,police,prosecutors,etc.Europeans (including European courts) almost universally believe that out court system is about as "just" and "civilized" as that in any South American banana republic.

7 posted on 07/11/2012 5:33:33 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Jimmy Carter Is No Longer The Worst President Of My Lifetime)
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To: ransomnote

As presented...only one parent can win here. A pox on the Hague court but I’m glad a male finally one a custody case.


8 posted on 07/11/2012 5:33:33 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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So,,,,your saying Fathers should have no rights regarding custody of their children?

Is that what I said? Let me re-read my post to check.I'll get back to ya.

9 posted on 07/11/2012 5:35:55 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Jimmy Carter Is No Longer The Worst President Of My Lifetime)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Ruthie Ginsberg has all but stated her contempt for US law.


10 posted on 07/11/2012 5:38:30 PM PDT by Clock King
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To: Gay State Conservative
The lesson to be learned here?
Appears to be that if you knowingly and willingly agree to a binding, joint custody arrangement in a foreign country before a foreign judge and later decide you want to violate that perfectly valid agreement and flee the country, then you can reasonably expect some sort of prosecution to be pursued against you.

Looks like she's fishing for sympathy to help get herself out of her self-made mess. All I can tell her is, "go fish".

11 posted on 07/11/2012 5:40:09 PM PDT by jaydee770
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To: Clock King
Ruthie Ginsberg has all but stated her contempt for US law.

Very true.Clearly,that contempt isn't only to be found in Europe.

12 posted on 07/11/2012 5:42:36 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Jimmy Carter Is No Longer The Worst President Of My Lifetime)
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To: Gay State Conservative

well it certainly appeared you were siding with the mother against the father.Even tho it was the mother who violated a binding agreemant.


13 posted on 07/11/2012 5:45:57 PM PDT by Craftmore
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To: ransomnote

This woman broke a court order and took this child from his father and kept him from his father. She should have filed through the courts for relocation and a long distance custody and if that didn’t work she could have left the child with the father or stayed in Ireland.

Evidentally, she felt what she wanted to do trumped what was best for the child and the father and decided to thumb her nose at a legal court order. These women think that they have a golden womb or something and get to make all the decisions for everyone and then cry foul when they don’t get their way.


14 posted on 07/11/2012 5:46:52 PM PDT by tiki
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To: ransomnote
wait just a minute.....this can't be true because no children are ever given to the fathers, right?.....

a co worker is engaged in a brutal custody batte and divorce...the man is not even an American citizen and has a head injury and other issues yet he has money in France from his head injury and using every penny to bankrupt this woman....the baby cries whenever she is out of sight...

yet, he has more custody of the baby girl than she does...often strangers who the mother does not know...male strangers...pick the baby up for the "daddy's" time....

15 posted on 07/11/2012 5:49:31 PM PDT by cherry (Catholics for Romney)
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To: ransomnote

Oh yes, and that article leaves out that the mother has dual Irish/American citizenship.


16 posted on 07/11/2012 5:49:57 PM PDT by tiki
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"I’m guessing the father will be more reasonable and find a way for the kid to visit his mom, but that’s up to him."

no "reasonable" "father" would demand that a small child abandon everything he has known since birth so daddy dearest could be the "winner"....

17 posted on 07/11/2012 5:52:50 PM PDT by cherry (Catholics for Romney)
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"As presented...only one parent can win here. A pox on the Hague court but I’m glad a male finally one a custody case."

yeah....who the HELL cares about the little kid right...as long as the male won the battle...YIPPEE...

no real father would wish such harm on a child....

18 posted on 07/11/2012 5:55:58 PM PDT by cherry (Catholics for Romney)
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well it certainly appeared you were siding with the mother against the father.Even tho it was the mother who violated a binding agreemant.

In a case involving US parent and foreign parent I'll side with the US parent,mother or father,every time...unless said parent is clearly demonstrated to be unfit to raise a child.Just out of curiosity did you support Elian Gonzalez's father's demand that he be returned to Cuba? I didn't.And I wouldn't have supported any such demand from his *mother* either.

19 posted on 07/11/2012 5:59:15 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Jimmy Carter Is No Longer The Worst President Of My Lifetime)
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“no “reasonable” “father” would demand that a small child abandon everything he has known since birth so daddy dearest could be the “winner”....”

They went to court in IRELAND. the MOM didn’t like joint custody, so she took the kid to the US to try to get a better deal for herself.

What is the father supposed to do when the mom is a psycho?


20 posted on 07/11/2012 6:02:02 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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