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Indication of anomalous heat energy production in a reactor device
Arxiv.org ^ | Submitted on 16 May 2013 | Giuseppe Levi, Evelyn Foschi, Torbjörn Hartman, Bo Höistad, Roland Pettersson, Lars Tegnér, Hanno Es

Posted on 05/20/2013 10:14:07 AM PDT by Kevmo

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To: I want the USA back

Is it exothermic or endothermic?
***Obviously Exo.

Put a few chemists together in a locked room until they determine what the reaction is.
***How about one of the premiere electrochemists of the day?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Fleischmann

He went on to teach at King’s College, Durham University,[6] which in 1963 became the newly established University of Newcastle upon Tyne.[7] In 1967, Fleischmann became Professor of Electrochemistry at the University of Southampton,[8] occupying the Faraday Chair of Chemistry.[6] From 1970 to 1972, he was president of the International Society of Electrochemists.[9] In 1974, he played an important role in the discovery of Surface Enhanced Raman Scattering effect (SERS),[5][10] and he developed the ultramicroelectrode in the 1980s.[11] In 1979, he was awarded the medal for electrochemistry and thermodynamics by the Royal Society of London. In 1982 he retired from the University of Southampton. In 1985 he received the Palladium Medal from the US Electrochemical Society, and in 1986 was elected to the Fellowship of the Royal Society.[12] He retired from teaching in 1983 and was given an honorary professorship at Southampton University.[9]


21 posted on 05/20/2013 11:38:15 AM PDT by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Kevmo

“Were you able to read the full report?


22 posted on 05/20/2013 11:40:24 AM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
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To: Kevmo

23 posted on 05/20/2013 11:54:03 AM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: Kevmo
The tests held in December 2012 and March 2013 are in fact subsequent to a previous attempt in November 2012 to make accurate measurements on a similar model of the E - Cat HT on the same premises. In that experiment the device was destroyed in the course of the experimental run, when the steel cylinder containing the active charge overheated and melted.

That sounds like a pretty interesting experiment.

I'm bothered, though, by their method of measuring heat production ("Measurement of the produced heat was performed with high-resolution thermal imaging cameras, recording data every second from the hot reactor tube.").

24 posted on 05/20/2013 12:04:03 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: CodeToad

Thanks 4 Bumping The Thread T4BTT.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2965392/posts?page=19#19


25 posted on 05/20/2013 12:06:45 PM PDT by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: PapaBear3625

What is it that bothers you about this high tech way of measuring heat (which is accepted across multiple industries)?


26 posted on 05/20/2013 12:08:01 PM PDT by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Kevmo
Here's the full text of the report
27 posted on 05/20/2013 12:08:36 PM PDT by Jack of all Trades (Hold your face to the light, even though for the moment you do not see.)
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To: B4Ranch; Lx
Oh, I'm following it closely. Been working my way through the paper itself. The screams of anguish from the pathological skeptics are absolutely true to form.

There is NO, I repeat NO evidence of collusion on the part of any of these researchers, none. Levi didn't even know Rossi until he was called in to participate in the first tests last year.

28 posted on 05/20/2013 12:59:25 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: PapaBear3625
"I'm bothered, though, by their method of measuring heat production ("Measurement of the produced heat was performed with high-resolution thermal imaging cameras, recording data every second from the hot reactor tube."). "

Why?? It is a perfectly straightforward and well-accepted way of measuring high temperatures. The only possibility of error is if the manufacturer's provided calibrations are in error. FAR better than the old-fashioned "hot wire" optical method that I used many years ago.

29 posted on 05/20/2013 1:00:09 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: from occupied ga

Put your head back up Steve Jones’s rearend and just go away. Oil is not the fuel of the future, and there is a fundamental principle of Physics which has yet to be detailed at work. At some point the noisy ridicule of the principles at work reveals an agenda driving the ridicule. You are exposing your prostituting yourself for that agenda.


30 posted on 05/20/2013 1:12:47 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Kevmo

The discovery of excess tritium than what might be detectable convinced me that Rossi, et al were onto something significant. The immediate reaction by the agenda goons was to accuse of ‘salting their samples’ with tritium. When the agenda goons have to make up a lie that obvious (proven a lie because tests all around the world have had similar excess tritium show up) you know they work for someone who is hell bent to bury this new discovery of an alternate means for energy.


31 posted on 05/20/2013 1:16:34 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: dila813

Levi was originally a skeptic of Rossi’s claims until he investigated them firsthand.

http://coldfusion3.com/blog/giuseppe-levi-goes-on-record-to-discuss-e-cat

• Levi is a member of the US group the Skeptic’s Society and he applied their “baloney detector kit.” (A set of parameters for the detection of fraud developed by the late Carl Sagan) to the e-cat and found it was not baloney.

• Levi said he investigated the e-cat because it is his duty as a scientist. He also wanted to protect the University of Bologna’s reputation from a possible fraud.


32 posted on 05/20/2013 1:17:51 PM PDT by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: MHGinTN
fundamental principle of Physics which has yet to be detailed at work.

LOL. Do you actually read what you write? You cold fusion morons actually believe this crap (shakes head marveling at human gullibility) It's just perpetual motion under another guise.

Just for laughs what fundamental principle would that be? The principle that there is a sucker born every minute? Or maybe the principle that it's easiest to con someone who wants to believe? Or maybe a fool and his money are soon parted. Tell you what. Invest in this get rich and then gloat. Or more likely invest in this. Find that they need more money to get just a few bugs worked out, and ten a bit more money to fund some special mchinery. etc.

Oh and who is Steve JOnes?

33 posted on 05/20/2013 1:40:37 PM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: Wonder Warthog

Jed Rothwell has an interesting comment on Vortex.

http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex- href=”mailto:l@eskimo.com”>l@eskimo.com/msg80368.html

[Vo]:Ny Teknik report of Rossi Hot Cat tests
Jed Rothwell Mon, 20 May 2013 13:39:05 -0700

In Swedish, but Google translate does an amazing job translating it:

http://www.nyteknik.se/nyheter/energi_miljo/energi/article3697489.ece
(I wish Google worked this well for Japanese.)

Two pathological skeptics weigh in with evasions and weasel words:

“Goran Eriksson, professor of applied nuclear physics at Uppsala
University, who commented critically on earlier reports about the E-cat,
finds that the latest report makes no mention of fusion or nuclear physics
and thereby not affecting his area of expertise.”

I think this means “outside his area of expertise” which is a ridiculous
evasion. He does not understand the concept of energy density?

“New technology has also contacted another former critic, Peter Ekström,
lecturer in Nuclear Physics at Lund University, who believes that the
report contains several weaknesses but asks to come back with comments.”

Give us a break, prof. Wanna bet he never comes back with comment?

Here is Mats Lewan’s earlier report, on his own website:

https://matslew.wordpress.com/2013/05/20/two-100-hour-scientific-tests-confirm-anomalous-heat-production-in-rossis-e-cat/

- Jed


34 posted on 05/20/2013 1:46:24 PM PDT by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: from occupied ga

Just for laughs what fundamental principle would that be?
***The fundamental principle would be the ASSumption that branching of fusion reactions for a gaseous state under high pressure and magnetic containment is exactly the same as the branching under a gas trapped in a lattice.


35 posted on 05/20/2013 1:49:17 PM PDT by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: MHGinTN

The discovery of excess tritium than what might be detectable convinced me that Rossi, et al were onto something significant.
***I have not been following Rossi that closely for more than a year, but I don’t think he ever bothered to report tritium production. Tritium production (about 50x) above background was found long before Rossi ever came on the scene.


36 posted on 05/20/2013 1:51:27 PM PDT by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: from occupied ga

You’re not very good at the form of ridicule you’re trying to use. But then the money for fools like you is probably dwindling with little barry basatrd running the government.


37 posted on 05/20/2013 2:23:18 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Wonder Warthog
Why?? It is a perfectly straightforward and well-accepted way of measuring high temperatures.

I agree that it's a good way of measuring temperatures. But what needs to be measured is heat production, which is not the same thing.

38 posted on 05/20/2013 2:26:21 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: dila813

Levi and Rossi are cohorts

Yes, they are.

39 posted on 05/20/2013 2:29:19 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Kevmo
Levi said he investigated the e-cat because it is his duty as a scientist. He also wanted to protect the University of Bologna’s reputation from a possible fraud.

University of Bologna Terminates Relationship With Rossi

40 posted on 05/20/2013 2:37:22 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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