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Ecat Test Generates a lot of Attention
Cold Fusion News ^ | May 30, 2013. | jennifer

Posted on 05/30/2013 5:41:53 PM PDT by Kevmo

Ecat Test Generates a lot of Attention

Published May 30, 2013. | By jennifer.

Andrea Rossi’s posting of the results from the independent test of his ecat Low Energy Nuclear Reaction (LENR) device at a forum for scientific papers has attracted a lot of attention. The attention has ranged from the curious to the favorable to the hostile.

The Botanical Garden at Uppsala University

Over at Forbes.com Mark Gibbs who has been very critical of Rossi in the past did a pretty good job of showing that the authors of the paper are real scientists. He also identified three of the paper authors I hadn’t heard of before they are: Torbjorn Hartman. Hartman is apparently a Senior Research Engineer at the Svedberg Laboratory which is associated with Uppsala University

Bo Hoistad who is a professor in the Department of Physics and Astronomy at Uppsala Unniversity. He maybe a professor of Nuclear Physics

Lars Tegner a Professor Emeritus (retired professor) from the Department of Engineering Sciences at Uppsala University. He is apparently a professor of electrical engineering.

Cudos to Mr. Gibbs for uncovering this and being willing to change his mind. Gibbs also noted that one of the professors Hanno Essen listed in the paper was the Chairman of the Swedish Skeptics Society for nearly three years. That doesn’t sound like a dupe does it.

Unfortunately not everybody is as open minded, Steven B. Krivit and New Energy Times are still denouncing the test as a hoax. They now claim Rossi is somehow manipulating the academics to create an illusion. One has to wonder would the academics be that stupid and gullible and would they risk their reputations and careers for a hoax. Perhaps the promoters of real journalism about LENR would explain this. It’s been my experience to start questioning any news source that starts bragging about practicing real journalism or the truth. Generally it’s a cover for sloppy reporting and masking opinion as news.

The usual “debunking” from the defenders of mainstream science has also popped up. Discovery News’ Jesse Emspak has posted 5 Reasons why Cold Fusion is Bunk. Note Rossi refuses to use the words Cold Fusion. A typical smear piece that employees a lot of classic propaganda techniques such as guilt by association ie link Rossi with the discredited words cold fusion, mention Pons and Fleischman, list some high school physics and hope none of our readers know anything about this. That’ll score points with certain science professors it isn’t journalism.

It’d be nice if the so called mainstream journalists might contact Mr. Rossi and talk to him. Or better contact the professors mentioned in the report and ask them why they think it is real.

If you’re interested in getting a full list of the coverage of the test results Sterling D. Allen has posted one at Pure Energy Systems. Unlike the so called critics he has listed both the critics and the supporters. His open mindedness should be a lesson for certain others.

The publicity we’re getting is nice but it doesn’t go far enough. Obviously part of the reason for this is that Rossi has not said or done anything dramatic or revealed how the ecat works. Hopefully that’ll be coming.

Hopefully all of this attention will lead to more funding and popular support for LENR. Something those of us who are discouraged by criticism should remember is that negative publicity can attract just as much attention as positive news. Even attack pieces may convince a few people to take a look at what’s going on and to get involved.


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1 posted on 05/30/2013 5:41:53 PM PDT by Kevmo
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To: dangerdoc; citizen; Liberty1970; Red Badger; Wonder Warthog; PA Engineer; glock rocks; free_life; ..

The Cold Fusion/LENR Ping List

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/coldfusion/index?tab=articles


http://lenr-canr.org/


2 posted on 05/30/2013 5:42:55 PM PDT by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Kevmo

Just had to rib you a little, in a friendly way.

No news of any further installations yet ?

One wonders what the military has found out about the device they purchased ?

3 posted on 05/30/2013 5:57:46 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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One wonders what the military has found out about the device they purchased ?
***If the military purchased a device and it was a scam, they’d be squawking pretty loud right about now.


4 posted on 05/30/2013 6:06:17 PM PDT by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Kevmo

Bttt


5 posted on 05/30/2013 6:44:50 PM PDT by citizen (We get the government we choose. America either voted for Obama or handed it to him by not voting.)
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To: Kevmo

I think....is that the squawk of seagulls?...getting louder....ever louder?


6 posted on 05/30/2013 6:53:25 PM PDT by citizen (We get the government we choose. America either voted for Obama or handed it to him by not voting.)
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To: Kevmo
Andrea Rossi’s posting of the results from the independent test of his ecat ...

Here's a picture of Rossi and his "idependent lead author taken back in 2011.

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7 posted on 05/30/2013 6:56:30 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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look what the cat dragged in

Thanks 4 Bumping The Thread T4BTT.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2965392/posts?page=19#19


8 posted on 05/30/2013 6:59:32 PM PDT by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Kevmo
***If the military purchased a device and it was a scam, they’d be squawking pretty loud right about now.

No military has purchased an Ecat.

9 posted on 05/30/2013 7:00:26 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Moonman62

interesting faith position

Thanks 4 Bumping The Thread T4BTT.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2965392/posts?page=19#19


10 posted on 05/30/2013 7:03:02 PM PDT by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Kevmo
Rossi's a fraud.

The sun will come up tomorrow.

Both positions of faith.

11 posted on 05/30/2013 7:05:36 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Kevmo

Thanks for posting these LENR threads Kevmo.


12 posted on 05/30/2013 7:13:42 PM PDT by phoneman08 (Reagan conservative union member. Not a s rare as you think!)
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To: Moonman62

I have faith, too. That you will continue to stalk me across these LENR threads.

Thanks 4 Bumping The Thread T4BTT.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2965392/posts?page=19#19


13 posted on 05/30/2013 7:14:24 PM PDT by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: phoneman08

You’re welcome


14 posted on 05/30/2013 7:15:34 PM PDT by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Kevmo

And I faith that you will continue to promote Rossi’s scam which has nothing to do with LENR.


15 posted on 05/30/2013 7:26:22 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Moonman62

See, my faith has already paid dividends. If Rossi’s independently verified power densities have nothing to do with LENR, then prove it. I have no desire to see fraud happen. Calling it a fraud is a faith position. Otherwise, if you could prove it, he’d be in jail.

Thanks 4 Bumping The Thread T4BTT.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2965392/posts?page=19#19


16 posted on 05/30/2013 7:35:06 PM PDT by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Kevmo
If Rossi’s independently verified power densities..

Nothing's been verified except that Rossi's friends in the gang of 7 don't know how to write a research paper.

Calling it a fraud is a faith position. Otherwise, if you could prove it, he’d be in jail.

Magic shows aren't against the law.

Selling distribution rights may be against the law depending on the contracts. That's the stage of the scam right now.

17 posted on 05/30/2013 7:53:18 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Moonman62

Can’t prove it, I see.

Thanks 4 Bumping The Thread T4BTT.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2965392/posts?page=19#19


18 posted on 05/30/2013 7:54:36 PM PDT by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Kevmo
I have no desire to see fraud happen.

Is he soliciting money from you? What's it to ya?

19 posted on 05/30/2013 7:57:30 PM PDT by DManA
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To: Moonman62

You can’t prove scam. You can’t prove the energy densities aren’t LENR. You can’t prove your claims.

But I can prove you’ve been stalking me. It’s there for all FReepers to see.

Thanks 4 Bumping The Thread T4BTT.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2965392/posts?page=19#19


20 posted on 05/30/2013 8:00:49 PM PDT by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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