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Has the E-Cat been proven to work?
Skeptoid ^ | 5-23-13 | Mike Weaver

Posted on 06/02/2013 7:17:12 PM PDT by Kevmo

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To: discostu

Your cohort moonman agrees that the USPTO does not grant such patents, and he has praised them for it. Do you accuse him of lying?


21 posted on 06/02/2013 7:43:48 PM PDT by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: 1rudeboy

Shouldn’t that be a couple of seagulls?


22 posted on 06/02/2013 7:44:23 PM PDT by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Kevmo

I’ll admit that I don’t know much about it. I’ve just seen it discussed on here several times.

I hope to be reading in the future that it’s a success.


23 posted on 06/02/2013 7:46:26 PM PDT by boycott (CAL)
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To: Kevmo

I have no cohort in this. The reason I say you’re lying is that I’ve provided you before with the links that show they DO give patents on it, having been provided with the information that shows your statement is incorrect continuing to make the statement is a knowingly lying. There ARE patents:
http://www.google.com/patents?id=WhIgAgAAEBAJ&pg=PA1&lpg=PA1&dq=%22Low+Energy+Nuclear+Reaction%22&source=bl&ots=Xuf1yRH2vB&sig=142QFcoB_2WmhjeCiLVn9AuUGlU&hl=en&sa=X&ei=qEROUKH4JsjSrQHKmIGoBw&ved=0CD4Q6AEwBQ&goback=.gde_4132340_member_161859049#v=onepage&q&f=false

Anytime you say there aren’t you’re lying.


24 posted on 06/02/2013 7:46:30 PM PDT by discostu (Not just another moon faced assassin of joy.)
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To: Sherman Logan

IOW, I wouldn’t take the temp in the photo as necessarily representative of actual temps reached.
***There were also thermal sensors placed on the device. Maybe a thermal camera in that case might be off by a couple of degrees, but it won’t be off by 400degrees. So, by “playing all sorts of games” do you suggest that these 7 independent scientists are in on a widely ranging ECat conspiracy? Good luck with that.


25 posted on 06/02/2013 7:46:53 PM PDT by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: discostu

Then moonboy is a liar as well. I always thought we’d end up in the same club.

Thanks 4 Bumping The Thread T4BTT.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2965392/posts?page=19#19


26 posted on 06/02/2013 7:47:55 PM PDT by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Kevmo

Not commenting on anything other than the mechanics of the camera. I am profoundly agnostic on the whole Rossi issue.

My knowledge of patent law is not great, but as I understand it, somebody cannot “steal” his ideas even without a patent if he can prove prior art. Since he’s been all over the news for a couple years, it would be pretty tough for somebody to claim they came up with the idea without knowledge of his work.


27 posted on 06/02/2013 7:50:00 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Kevmo
Has the E-Cat been proven to work?

NO.

28 posted on 06/02/2013 7:50:20 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: Kevmo

I don’t know if the facts have been presented to him. They HAVE been presented to you. and you persist in the lie. Just like your hero Rossi, all lies and BS. he’s a shyster, you’re a liar, it’s just that simple.


29 posted on 06/02/2013 7:50:36 PM PDT by discostu (Not just another moon faced assassin of joy.)
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To: boycott

If you’re inclined to get the gist of the investigation, the book I recommend is

Beaudette, C. G., “Excess Heat: Why Cold Fusion Research Prevailed” gives an in depth history of the subject up to 2002.

Or, free of charge, you can go here for an introduction

http://lenr-canr.org/wordpress/?page_id=263


30 posted on 06/02/2013 7:50:55 PM PDT by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: discostu

Thanks for the personal attack.

Thanks 4 Bumping The Thread T4BTT.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2965392/posts?page=19#19


31 posted on 06/02/2013 7:51:41 PM PDT by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Kevmo

Thanks. I’ll read up on it.


32 posted on 06/02/2013 7:52:05 PM PDT by boycott (CAL)
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To: Kevmo

Everyday there’s someone asking
What is there to do?
Should I love or should I fight
Is it all the same to you?
No I say I have the answer
Proven to be true,
But if I were to share it with you,
You would stand to gain
And I to lose.
Oh I couldn’t bear it
So I’ve got nothing to say.
Nothing to say.

— Jethro Tull


33 posted on 06/02/2013 7:52:37 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: Kevmo

It’s not a personal attack, I CAUGHT YOU LYING, it’s a statement of fact. You say patent office won’t patent LENR, they have
http://www.google.com/patents?id=WhIgAgAAEBAJ&pg=PA1&lpg=PA1&dq=%22Low+Energy+Nuclear+Reaction%22&source=bl&ots=Xuf1yRH2vB&sig=142QFcoB_2WmhjeCiLVn9AuUGlU&hl=en&sa=X&ei=qEROUKH4JsjSrQHKmIGoBw&ved=0CD4Q6AEwBQ&goback=.gde_4132340_member_161859049#v=onepage&q&f=false
you know that, you said it anyway, you lied. People who lie are known as liars. No personal attack, statement of simple proven fact.


34 posted on 06/02/2013 7:53:33 PM PDT by discostu (Not just another moon faced assassin of joy.)
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To: Sherman Logan

Since he’s been all over the news for a couple years, it would be pretty tough for somebody to claim they came up with the idea without knowledge of his work.
***Basically, Defkalion appears to have done exactly that. They worked with Rossi for a while, had a falling out, then miraculously had a breakthrough of their own which seems exactly like Rossi’s. Rossi is a mercurial personality, so it is easy to imagine that he pushed them to the edge & pissed them off to the point they would steal his IP.


35 posted on 06/02/2013 7:54:11 PM PDT by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: discostu

personal attack

Thanks 4 Bumping The Thread T4BTT.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2965392/posts?page=19#19


36 posted on 06/02/2013 7:54:50 PM PDT by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: ClearCase_guy

As Popeye would say,

faskinating


37 posted on 06/02/2013 7:56:05 PM PDT by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: hinckley buzzard

As far as I know, the US patent office specifically forbids the granting of patents for cold fusion. So the net effect is that Rossi is not able to get a patent even if proven correct.


38 posted on 06/02/2013 7:56:46 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: Kevmo

Claims are one thing. Proving it in court is quite another.

If this thing were to work out, presumably it would be worth hundreds of billions of dollars. I think Rossi would be able to afford an attorney.


39 posted on 06/02/2013 7:57:46 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Paladin2

Let me know when the hot fusion boxes show up at Home Depot. Oh, wait, after spending $hundreds of billions, they won’t be showing up for 50 years, which is the same thing they said 50 years ago. $billions pissed down a rathole.


40 posted on 06/02/2013 7:59:49 PM PDT by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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