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Tests: E-Cat has an energy density 10 times higher than other energy source
Phys dot org ^ | May 23, 2013 | Lisa Zyga

Posted on 08/21/2013 4:27:14 AM PDT by citizen

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Tests find Rossi's E-Cat has an energy density at least 10 times higher than any conventional energy source

(Phys.org) —In the ongoing saga of Andrea Rossi's energy catalyzer (E-Cat) that promises clean, cheap power for the world, the latest events continue to bring as many questions as answers. Several scientists have performed supposedly independent tests of two E-Cat prototypes under controlled conditions and using high-precision instrumentation. In a paper posted at arXiv.org, the researchers write that, even by the most conservative of measurements, the E-Cat produces excess heat with a resulting energy density that is at least 1 order of magnitude—and possibly several—higher than any other conventional energy source, including gasoline.

Of the seven scientists who authored the paper, two are from Italy (Giuseppe Levi at Bologna University and Evelyn Foschi of Bologna, Italy) and five are from Sweden (Torbjörn Hartman, Bo Höistad, Roland Pettersson and Lars Tegnér at Uppsala University; and Hanno Essén at the Royal Institute of Technology in Stockholm).

Essén, who submitted the paper, is an associate professor of theoretical physics at the Swedish Royal Institute of Technology and former chairman of the Swedish Skeptics Society.

"I have followed the Rossi E-Cats for a couple of years now and participated in two experiments (including the present one) and read, and heard, about several other more or less independent ones," Essén told Phys.org. "My overall impression is that there must be something there, but scientists must always be cautious until everything has been checked and rechecked."

(Excerpt) Read more at phys.org ...


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KEYWORDS: canr; cmns; coldfusion; ecat; energy; lenr; rossi
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A quite interesting article describing the tests and Rossi's device in some detail, without the magic ingredients of course.
1 posted on 08/21/2013 4:27:14 AM PDT by citizen
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To: Kevmo; Wonder Warthog

Ping


2 posted on 08/21/2013 4:29:22 AM PDT by citizen (We get the government we choose. America either voted for Obama or handed it to him by not voting.)
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To: citizen

Great!!

Where can I buy one?


3 posted on 08/21/2013 4:29:29 AM PDT by Mr. K (Lies, Damned Lies, Statistics, and then Democrat Talking Points.)
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To: Mr. K

Hopefully we will all know that soon. Contact A. Rosssi?


4 posted on 08/21/2013 4:33:45 AM PDT by citizen (We get the government we choose. America either voted for Obama or handed it to him by not voting.)
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To: Liberty1970; Red Badger; PA Engineer; glock rocks; free_life

A few pings from Kevmo’s ping list, the ones I can see from a previous article.


5 posted on 08/21/2013 4:36:49 AM PDT by citizen (We get the government we choose. America either voted for Obama or handed it to him by not voting.)
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To: citizen

I don’t see your article at that link.


6 posted on 08/21/2013 4:42:02 AM PDT by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: saganite
http://phys.org/news/2013-05-rossi-e-cat-energy-density-higher.html
7 posted on 08/21/2013 4:45:08 AM PDT by Frapster (Clear the mechanism)
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To: Frapster

Thanks. There’s nothing new here. This is a rehash of old info.


8 posted on 08/21/2013 4:59:14 AM PDT by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: citizen

I hope so too! it sounds wonderful... should change the world... he should become a $trillionaire...

when can I get one? oh- its still not available? what is this-like 10 years now? what are they waiting for...?

is he too stupid to file a patent?


9 posted on 08/21/2013 5:00:28 AM PDT by Mr. K (Lies, Damned Lies, Statistics, and then Democrat Talking Points.)
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To: citizen

And in another 3 or 4 decades we might even may see a commercial use maybe.


10 posted on 08/21/2013 5:00:46 AM PDT by riverrunner
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To: Frapster; saganite

Thanks for the link assistance! I need to go to article posting school :(


11 posted on 08/21/2013 5:03:30 AM PDT by citizen (We get the government we choose. America either voted for Obama or handed it to him by not voting.)
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To: riverrunner

I hope it doesn’t take another 3 or 4 decades. I won’t live that long.

How about 3 or 4 years, as it seems a lot of progress is being made lately by a host of researchers and organizations.


12 posted on 08/21/2013 5:06:44 AM PDT by citizen (We get the government we choose. America either voted for Obama or handed it to him by not voting.)
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To: Admin Moderator

I didn’t post properly and the article link doesn’t work. Can you fix it, please?


13 posted on 08/21/2013 5:08:52 AM PDT by citizen (We get the government we choose. America either voted for Obama or handed it to him by not voting.)
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To: citizen

Color me skeptical


14 posted on 08/21/2013 5:15:40 AM PDT by riverrunner
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To: citizen

I have a friend who is an older fellow who holds several patents that relate to catalysts and cat crackers. Every refinery in the world uses his inventions. He has not looked in to this but some of the things he says about catalysts are very interesting. I guess my point is that you never know what a human may come up with:)


15 posted on 08/21/2013 5:41:08 AM PDT by isthisnickcool (NO MORE IRS!)
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To: citizen
Amazing. The same old hand-waving abracadabra is trotted out with new fanfare and presented as if it were something new. I guess the current crop of rubes investors is drying up, so a new crop needs to be cultivated.

A while back, someone posted a link to a story of a con artist a century ago, who used an approach almost identical to Rossi's to keep a scam going for decades. When he died and people were able to actually examine his device, they found a very clever mechanism for producing the effects--but no actual device. I'm guessing we'll see the same with Rossi. The main difference between that 1800s scammer and Rossi is that the 1800s scammer had some artistic talent, so that his "devices" were nice to look at. Rossi has no sense of style at all.

16 posted on 08/21/2013 5:51:47 AM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: citizen

Given that sites advocacy of man made global warming I question the source and its agenda.

Science label for gov cash seems to be a new industry.


17 posted on 08/21/2013 6:09:35 AM PDT by Wildbill22 (They have us surrounded again, the poor bastards- Gen Creighton Williams Abrams)
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To: riverrunner
"And in another 3 or 4 decades we might even may see a commercial use maybe."

You're talking about hot fusion, right??

18 posted on 08/21/2013 6:18:17 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: Mr. K
"....is he too stupid to file a patent?"

He has a European patent, but not (yet) a US one. Whether that is due to the fact that the US patent office has (wrongully) in the past treated cold fusion like perpetual motion, I don't know. Several other researchers and agencies have very recently received US patents for CF approaches. The secret of US success seems to be to NOT call it "cold fusion", but some other terminology.

19 posted on 08/21/2013 6:22:58 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: exDemMom

There are other researchers besides Rossi. Read Beaudette’s book yet?? Or ANY published research paper on LENR??


20 posted on 08/21/2013 6:24:45 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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