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Silent Nagasaki (“Raw” Footage of the Loading of the Fat Man Bomb)
Nuclear Secrecy ^ | February 7th, 2014 | Alex Wellerstein

Posted on 02/08/2014 10:37:19 AM PST by nickcarraway

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To: SunkenCiv
it was a war

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Exactly.

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and neither the Japanese nor anyone else has any complaint coming regarding the use of nukes.

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If you're saying Western leftists and the Japanese have no legitimate basis on which to call America evil for dropping the bombs, I agree.

I was originally responding to the following post #9 by jmacusa, who mentioned the stupidity of the supposed pacifists:

I'm one American who is sick and f**king tired of hearing this bs about how horrible the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were. America didn't want war but Japan did and they paid the price for it. Do you think if the Japs had such a weapon and possessed it on Dec.7.1941 they would have hesitated to use it? F'ing world gets all weepy every time August 6th. and 9th. rolls around but it never gets weepy on Dec.7.

I was agreeing with this and expanding on why the leftist stance was so ignorant, stupid, and hypocritical.

81 posted on 02/09/2014 10:19:44 AM PST by angryoldfatman
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To: jmacusa

Don’t you just light the fuse?


82 posted on 02/09/2014 10:22:35 AM PST by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: SunkenCiv
Interesting to speculate, regardless. :’)

Ayup!

83 posted on 02/09/2014 10:29:30 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: Telepathic Intruder

LOL!


84 posted on 02/09/2014 11:23:56 AM PST by jmacusa ("Chasing God out of the classroom didn't usher in The Age of Reason''.)
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To: amigatec
Actually there were 3 that survived both bombs.

See #64. It seems the actual number of dual survivors may have been as high as 165.

85 posted on 02/09/2014 11:36:44 AM PST by cynwoody
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To: SunkenCiv

Great links. To add to this were the news reports of the sub’s capture from that time were deemed as misinformation by the Japanese. They were still waiting for the sub on VJ day.

Plan was also for the uranium to be used for dirty bomb attacks on San Francisco using the German uranium and planes from their I-400 aircraft carrying subs on a one way trip. Story was this was also one of the reasons President Truman used in his decision to drop the bomb.


86 posted on 02/09/2014 12:08:10 PM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult (Liberals make unrealistic demands on reality and reality doesn't oblige them.)
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To: jmacusa

Just to add the 1500 ft altitude is optimum for the most effective blast for those type of nukes. A burst lower than that would still be devastating but cause a crater and severely reduce the blast radius. A nuclear explosion at ground level would actually force much of the explosive power upward and be a waste.


87 posted on 02/09/2014 12:28:10 PM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult (Liberals make unrealistic demands on reality and reality doesn't oblige them.)
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To: nickcarraway

Bflr


88 posted on 02/09/2014 12:35:02 PM PST by Raven6 (Psalm 144:1 and Proverbs 22:3)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

Yup. Again, the complex mechanism of a nuclear device isn’t going to work smashing into the ground like an artillery shell or a 500 lb. bomb dropped from a plane or jet. Air burst detonations of artillery shells are devastating against troops in the open, that’s for sure. An uncle of mine was wounded during The Battle of The Bulge in Belgium in early Jan.’45. Way he described it was his unit was assembling for an attack and were waiting in the open(bad move) to meet up with a company of some Sherman tanks. Kraut 88 saw them. Ground was frozen so that wouldn’t have done much damage so they fired an air burst. Damn near took my uncles head off. Said all he remembered was talking to the guy next to him and then waking up in a hospital in England ‘’with half my face torn off’’.


89 posted on 02/09/2014 4:46:36 PM PST by jmacusa ("Chasing God out of the classroom didn't usher in The Age of Reason''.)
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