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To: Vigilanteman
Look at exactly the reverse situation in the Netherlands/Belgium. Before 1600, they were colonies of Spain and economic backwaters.

Sorry, but the Netherlands were at the very center of the European economy from the early Middle Ages on. Most of the great cloth manufacturing centers were there. The axis of the European country was from northern Italy to the Netherlands.

The great wealth of the area was precisely why they were able to fight off the Spanish Empire, the greatest in the world at the time and supported by the looted wealth of Mexico and Peru, for 80 years.

The result of the war was partition of the Netherlands, with the still Spanish-controlled and Catholic segment (later Belgium) indeed becoming an economic backwater for a century or two. While the independent and Protestant section became the wealthiest country on earth for a time.

Charles V, under whom the rift started, was raised in the Netherlands and much more a Netherlander than a Spaniard.

14 posted on 06/18/2014 8:10:46 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins all the battles. Reality wins all the wars.)
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To: Sherman Logan
Compared to what? Before the Huguenots moved into the Netherlands big time following intense persecutions which begin in France in the mid 16th century, Antwerp was, indeed, the center of cloth manufacturing. But this was as much a reflection of the political power of the Hapsburg Alliance (which included the Holy Roman Empire as well as Spain) as it was the realities of a great location.

As you yourself pointed out, the real rise begin with the partition of the Netherlands and Belgium and the Netherlands, as a bastion of religious liberty, greatly surpassed Belgium within a century of that partition.

The influx of Huguenots with their industry and inventiveness deserves no small part of the credit for that transformation.

16 posted on 06/18/2014 8:21:24 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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