Skip to comments.Sure, Atheism Is a Religion, to which Neil deGrasse Tyson and Cosmos Seek Converts
Posted on 10/29/2014 5:35:22 AM PDT by Heartlander
I think it is of the utmost importance that government define environmentalism as a religion!
That is the only way we will ever get the environmental propaganda out of our schools!
Some atheists even meet on Sundays at gatherings singing songs & showing the hallmarks of a budding religion.
They’re called Unitarian Universalists.
As for this particular bit of opinion, attempting to explain origins is not evidence of religion, neither is worrying about possible outcomes. It's silly to try and re-cast everything as "just another version of what I believe, simply not the correct one." It's a childish game.
Sorry. It takes just as much (or more) faith to believe in no god as it does to believe in Him.
Atheism is a religion - just like Communism was.
Get back to me when you figure out what happened before time began - and what that concept even means. Or how about this, what is one centimeter beyond the end of all space? And what does that even mean?
And what is the difference between nothing, and everything.
Humans are not even smart enough to ask the most important questions, let alone give the answers, as to how all of this exists without a God outside our constraints of time and space.
To believe otherwise is a religion, whether it’s organized or not.
Atheists cannot prove that there is no God, they have to take it on faith.
Nature abhors a vacuum?
The fool hath said in his heart there is no God.
I prefer atheists to muslims. Atheists worship themselves, muslims worship satan.
It is easier to re-direct a belief system that is not hard wired into satan worship. Just my opinion. In the end we will all stand before God. Most people will not like it.
Sounds sort of like how islam started.
“Every religion tells a story that frames its worldview. So does atheism”
So does Star Trek. But I’m not praying to Mr. Spock either.
“Atheists cannot prove that there is no God...”
You cannot prove a negative. That is why agnosticism is a more logical system than atheism.
Sure you can in many instances. I can prove I don't have a pistol in my front left pocket by turning the pocket inside out. In this instance, however, you can't prove or disprove the existence of God. This is by definition as God transcends the empirical bounds which restrain the concept of "science" or "reason". "Finitum non capax infinitium." Each side to the argument must rely on trying to establish the greatest probability for their position.
Years ago I attended a Sunday morning get together at a Unitarian/Universalist "church".I learned that there are *some* atheists who feel a strange need to fill their Sunday mornings with strange rituals.
atheism isn't exempt from analysis or critique of its real world consequences. Atheism is a metaphysical stance -- there are no gods and no God, there is no intrinsic purpose to existence, there is no natural moral law, there is no accountability in an afterlife. Those are quite explicit and consequential assertions, just as the negation of those assertions -- that there is a God, that there is a purpose to existence... -- is an explicit and consequential assertion. Atheism lacks liturgy. It does not lack beliefs and consequences. It lacks belief in God; it does not lack belief in the intrinsic consequences of God's non-existence. As Nietzsche emphatically noted, if God is dead, everything changes.
...atheism is to sin as alcoholism is to angst. Stupor-- metaphysical or medicinal-- is a denial of reality and a denial of consequences, which feels good for an evening or a weekend.
- Michael Egnor
First, nihilism cant condemn Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, or those who fomented the Armenian genocide or the Rwandan one. If there is no such thing as morally forbidden, then what Mohamed Atta did on September 11, 2001, was not morally forbidden. Of course, it was not permitted either. But still, dont we want to have grounds to condemn these monsters? Nihilism seems to cut that ground out from under us.
Second, if we admit to being nihilists, then people wont trust us. We wont be left alone when there is loose change around. We wont be relied on to be sure small children stay out of trouble.
Third, and worst of all, if nihilism gets any traction, society will be destroyed. We will find ourselves back in Thomas Hobbess famous state of nature, where the life of man is solitary, mean, nasty, brutish and short. Surely, we dont want to be nihilists if we can possibly avoid it. (Or at least, we dont want the other people around us to be nihilists.)
Scientism cant avoid nihilism. We need to make the best of it. For our own self-respect, we need to show that nihilism doesnt have the three problems just mentionedno grounds to condemn Hitler, lots of reasons for other people to distrust us, and even reasons why no one should trust anyone else. We need to be convinced that these unacceptable outcomes are not ones that atheism and scientism are committed to. Such outcomes would be more than merely a public relations nightmare for scientism. They might prevent us from swallowing nihilism ourselves, and that would start unraveling scientism.
To avoid these outcomes, people have been searching for scientifically respectable justification of morality for least a century and a half. The trouble is that over the same 150 years or so, the reasons for nihilism have continued to mount. Both the failure to find an ethics that everyone can agree on and the scientific explanation of the origin and persistence of moral norms have made nihilism more and more plausible while remaining just as unappetizing.
- A.Rosenberg, The Atheist Guide to Reality, ch.5
Scientism shows that the first-person POV is an illusion. Even after scientism convinces us, well continue to stick with the first person. But at least well know that its another illusion of introspection and well stop taking it seriously. Well give up all the answers to the persistent questions about free will, the self, the soul, and the meaning of life that the illusion generates.
The physical facts fix all the facts. The mind is the brain. It has to be physical and it cant be anything else, since thinking, feeling, and perceiving are physical processin particular, input/output processesgoing on in the brain. We can be sure of a great deal about how the brain works because the physical facts fix all the facts about the brain. The fact that the mind is the brain guarantees that there is no free will. It rules out any purposes or designs organizing our actions or our lives. It excludes the very possibility of enduring persons, selves, or souls that exist after death or for that matter while we live. ( .)
The neural circuits in our brain manage the beautifully coordinated and smoothly appropriate behavior of our body. They also produce the entrancing introspective illusion that thoughts really are about stuff in the world. This powerful illusion has been with humanity since language kicked in, as well see. It is the source of at least two other profound myths: that we have purposes that give our actions and lives meaning and that there is a person in there steering the body, so to speak. To see why we make these mistakes and why its so hard to avoid them, we need to understand the source of the illusion that thoughts are about stuff.
-Rosenberg, The Atheist's Guide To Reality, ch.9
No scientist,or group of scientists,will ever be able to prove...or disprove...the existence of God.
And that's by definition. An infinite being cannot be "proved" by finite standards or methods.
Atheism makes a positive statement concerning the metaphysical. That makes it a religion. Agnosticism, however, is not a religion.
Scientism is very odd. “We study X. Nothing outside X exists.”
How would they know, since they don’t study anything outside X?
They could reasonably say, “We study X. We do not know what outside X exists and have no opinion of it.”
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