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1 posted on 11/04/2014 1:05:26 AM PST by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker

All we are is dust in the wind, dude.

2 posted on 11/04/2014 1:25:37 AM PST by Vince Ferrer
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I find it amusing that scientists keep searching to find the smallest particle that can account for the mass necessary to make their formulas work properly.

The missing ingredient is not a minuscule nano-particle, but the greatest one of all.... GOD. There scientists will find the missing ingredient that surpasses all understanding and makes all the equations balance!


3 posted on 11/04/2014 1:27:30 AM PST by tired&retired
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We certainly are living in interesting times when it comes to physics and astronomy. The times are so interesting, in fact, and so changing (with new data coming in all the time from space telescopes and particle accelerators and neutrino detectors buried in mine shafts, etc) that I wish dates would be added to quotes from scientists. Some of the scientists quoted in the above article (Guth, for example) have expressed doubts about their own particular theories based on new data from refined measurements of the cosmic background radiation. When anyone is quoted in one of these articles, whenever possible I would like to see the date the statement was made.


5 posted on 11/04/2014 2:14:00 AM PST by samtheman
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To: LibWhacker
If you can detect another Universe, it isn't another Universe.

It's just another bit of the Universe.

Other Universes - if they existed - would have to be strictly orthogonal to our Universe, and thus be undetectable.

Whenever we detect something - whatever we detect is by definition part of our Universe.

If/when we find different phase spaces, areas of reduced or enhanced dimensionality, multiply connected space - whatever weird and wonderful things are out there - we're merely discovering that our Universe is more complex and strange than we originally thought.

Other Universes cannot be detected. If you can detect them then they weren't 'other' Universes in the first place.

There is no observation you can make that can show the existence of another Universe. If you can observe it, it's in our Universe.

The theory of a 'MultiVerse' of multiple Universes is not only non-disprovable: it is also strictly non-provable. This makes it a uniquely pointless concept.

6 posted on 11/04/2014 3:01:49 AM PST by agere_contra (Hamas has dug miles of tunnels - but no bomb-shelters.)
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To: LibWhacker

Nothing exploded and created everything. No faith required there.


7 posted on 11/04/2014 3:03:58 AM PST by wheat_grinder
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To: LibWhacker

ping for later


9 posted on 11/04/2014 3:11:28 AM PST by beef (Who Killed Kennewick Man?)
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Increased coffee Ping.


12 posted on 11/04/2014 3:45:43 AM PST by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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I'm reminded of Einstein's statement about complexity: "Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius -- and a lot of courage -- to move in the opposite direction."

Anyone requiring "immortal watchers", "two headed cows", and "eternal inflation" to describe their theories, is certainly "moving in the opposite direction". Keep in mind, that during "inflation", the laws of physics DON'T apply.

14 posted on 11/04/2014 4:15:20 AM PST by norwaypinesavage (The Stone Age did not end because we ran out of stones)
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an immortal “watcher” who soars through the multiverse counting events


15 posted on 11/04/2014 4:18:04 AM PST by GodBlessRonaldReagan (Surf music is the naked truth)
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They claim that the entire universe is expanding. I’ve always wondered “Expanding into what?”

Assume for the moment that the universe started with a big bang, expanded to some size that allowed planets, galaxies etc, and continues to expand.

If the universe is really expanding then wouldn’t all of it be expanding more or less uniformly? That is, as the distance between galaxies expands the distance between the stars in those galaxies also expands and the distance between the planets orbiting those stars also expands etc etc etc down to the distance between the atoms in our bodies also expands and those very atoms expand! Likewise the distance measurable by our most accurate tools also expands because those very tools are expanding. So universal expansion is unmeasureable and undetectable.

Going backwards in time would bring us to the point where the galaxies (in comparison to us today) would be microscopic as their atoms are even smaller. The “point” source would have to be a fully formed and functioning universe that, to it’s inhabitants, is indistinguishable from the universe today (relative sizes do not change as everything gets bigger).

This is not to say that the galaxies cannot be moving one in relation to the other.

If it was expanding, at some point there would have to be an observable limit to the universe beyond which you could not go. But if you can see the limit, then you can see beyond the limit, which means that it’s not really a limit after all, as whatever the universe is expanding into, is already in the universe.

So, it seems to me that the galaxies moving away from each other is not a sign of universal expansion but of something else. And I’d expect that we’d find some cases of galaxies moving towards one another (colliding) which we do.


16 posted on 11/04/2014 4:57:13 AM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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The universe doesn't fit the theory, so the universe must be wrong.
17 posted on 11/04/2014 5:40:54 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Any energy source that requires a subsidy is, by definition, "unsustainable.")
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...What are the odds , indeed...
What are the odds that the Church would celebrate the “Alteration of Mass” every Sunday morning....and what are the odds that you turn your back to this fact...and what are the odds if the total sum of all Mankind’s theoretical hyperbole is zero...
What are the odds that the Earth is flat and what are the odds that the speed of light as well as the sound barrier can never be broken...
...But do not be discouraged my friends , just keep at it for a time , for time is why you are here.


18 posted on 11/04/2014 5:47:16 AM PST by mark8express (...Variation of Light...)
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“Than the theory predicts”
Then the theory is wrong and must be trashed.
Truth: there is one universe. Talk of “multiverses” is just more of the insanity into which this country has descended.


19 posted on 11/04/2014 5:50:02 AM PST by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
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To: LibWhacker

Is that close to the underverse?


21 posted on 11/04/2014 6:55:46 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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What? No Sheldon jokes here?

String Theory is all over this.


23 posted on 11/04/2014 8:05:49 AM PST by Conan the Librarian (The Best in Life is to crush my enemies, see them driven before me, and the Dewey Decimal System)
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The best argument for God is science. If you dig a little you will find that most of the things science takes for granted really have no explanation other than “It was a trillion to one shot!” A bundle of unlikelies stacked atop a pile of extreme improbabilities all built on a foundation of impossibilities. That’s our universe, our planet, our very biology.


24 posted on 11/04/2014 8:19:17 AM PST by pepsi_junkie (Who is John Galt?)
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To: LibWhacker

Bump for when I can wrap my head around it.


25 posted on 11/04/2014 9:01:34 AM PST by golux
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%%
Countless Bubbles
In the Brine…
One we can live in-
Is it by Design?


27 posted on 11/04/2014 11:30:19 AM PST by mikrofon (Electoral BUMP)
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Multiverse is religion. Untestable, unobservable and unknown to anybody in this universe. Simply a crackpot hypothesis to deny a first cause because these academics suffer from the same mental illness as Obama. Narcissism squared.


32 posted on 11/05/2014 6:50:12 PM PST by jwalsh07
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