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The arguments that convinced a libertarian to support aggressive action on climate
vox ^ | 5-12-2015 | David Roberts

Posted on 05/13/2015 6:05:00 PM PDT by Citizen Zed

To the casual observer, the American right can appear an undifferentiated wall of denial and obstructionism on climate change, but behind the scenes there are signs of movement. A growing number of conservative leaders and intellectuals have come to terms with climate science and begun casting about for solutions. Led mainly by libertarians and libertarian-leaning economists, they've begun to coalesce behind a carbon tax, which they consider the most market-friendly of the available alternatives.

Jerry Taylor, a longtime veteran of the libertarian think tank Cato Institute who recently founded his own libertarian organization, the Niskanen Center, is a vocal proponent of this perspective. About five or six years ago, he says, he was convinced by a series of discussions, mainly with other right-leaning thinkers, that he was wrong on climate policy. His position "fundamentally switched."

In March, he released a new policy brief, "The Conservative Case for a Carbon Tax," which argues for a steadily rising "revenue-neutral" fee on fossil fuel producers. Aside from a small portion set aside to cushion low-income households, all the revenue would be devoted to reducing other taxes.

Taylor has in mind a deal that would impose a carbon tax in exchange for the removal of other climate regulations, notably EPA carbon rules and state renewable energy mandates. He's been defending the proposal on Niskanen's blog, mainly against attacks from skeptical conservatives.

On a hot DC day last week, I caught up with Taylor at Niskanen's office — housed, improbably, in a buzzing shared workspace filled with attractive millennials and their startups. The muggy weather had him in a natty seersucker suit, full of energy and eager to dig into wonky details.

(Excerpt) Read more at vox.com ...


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Revenue-Neutral... Just like Obamacare? Check the man for pods and hallucinogens.
1 posted on 05/13/2015 6:05:00 PM PDT by Citizen Zed
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
The Debate Is Over -- about libertarianism.

2 posted on 05/13/2015 6:07:26 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW!)
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To: Citizen Zed
I'm an obstructionist. Here's an obstructionist fact.

Physicist Howard Hayden's one-letter disproof of global warming claims [pre-Climategate]

Dear Administrator Jackson:

I write in regard to the Proposed Endangerment and Cause or Contribute Findings for Greenhouse Gases Under Section 202(a) of the Clean Air Act, Proposed Rule, 74 Fed. Reg. 18,886 (Apr. 24, 2009), the so-called "Endangerment Finding."

It has been often said that the "science is settled" on the issue of CO2 and climate. Let me put this claim to rest with a simple one-letter proof that it is false.

The letter is s, the one that changes model into models. If the science were settled, there would be precisely one model, and it would be in agreement with measurements.

Alternatively, one may ask which one of the twenty-some models settled the science so that all the rest could be discarded along with the research funds that have kept those models alive.

We can take this further. Not a single climate model predicted the current cooling phase. If the science were settled, the model (singular) would have predicted it.

(excerpted from Professor Hayden's letter to Lisa P. Jackson, Administrator Environmental Protection Agency. More at link.)


3 posted on 05/13/2015 6:08:43 PM PDT by TigersEye (STONE COLD ZOMBIE SCOURGE)
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To: Citizen Zed

Libertarians are Liberals.

Not much more needs to be said. It is known.


4 posted on 05/13/2015 6:09:38 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy ("It's not easy being drunk all the time; everyone would do it, if it were easy.")
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To: Citizen Zed
Taylor has in mind a deal that would impose a carbon tax in exchange for the removal of other climate regulations, notably EPA carbon rules and state renewable energy mandates.

Yeah, "a deal." Either he's hawg-stupid, or he's been bought off or blackmailed.

5 posted on 05/13/2015 6:11:03 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("He's not my prophet, he's just some dead bloke." ~ Mark Steyn)
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To: ClearCase_guy

The economy is booming and its the golden age of religious freedom in the USA.

Just ask John Stossel.


6 posted on 05/13/2015 6:11:32 PM PDT by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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To: Tax-chick

Leave it to the loons to want to ban what our life form is based on. There is a message in that.


7 posted on 05/13/2015 6:14:17 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s, you weren't really there....)
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To: ClearCase_guy

You’re showing your ignorance, Bud.


8 posted on 05/13/2015 6:15:26 PM PDT by Oklahoma
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To: Tax-chick

Says right in the article “recently formed his own” group. He knows where the money is. Nothing more to it than that.


9 posted on 05/13/2015 6:16:19 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: ChildOfThe60s

I think the message is, “They’re bats.”


10 posted on 05/13/2015 6:16:34 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("He's not my prophet, he's just some dead bloke." ~ Mark Steyn)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Good catch.


11 posted on 05/13/2015 6:16:54 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("He's not my prophet, he's just some dead bloke." ~ Mark Steyn)
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To: Citizen Zed

Newt Gingrich became econut too...wanted to make a profit from it!


12 posted on 05/13/2015 6:17:01 PM PDT by RginTN
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To: Citizen Zed

I would come to terms with climate science if I could find any. I happen to believe in the discipline called Scientific Method to validate science. After years and years of searching for a study which passes the tests and requirements of Scientific Method, I have found exactly...none.


13 posted on 05/13/2015 6:17:50 PM PDT by immadashell (The inmates are running the asylum.)
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To: Citizen Zed
"With a capitol "T" that rhymes with "C" and that stands for CARBON!"


14 posted on 05/13/2015 6:21:09 PM PDT by HerrBlucher ("We should thank God for beer and burgundy by not drinking too much of them." GK Chesterton)
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To: Tax-chick
TC really!

What did those poor hawgs ever do to you?

15 posted on 05/13/2015 6:21:35 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: Tax-chick

Whenever a supposed ‘right winger’ or right wing associated person flips, money is always involved. Blackmail may be also, but money is always there in some quantity.

IQ/intelligence doesn’t just vanish. It can be bought or blackmailed into silence, but it does not disappear once established. For a liberal, there never was intelligence to lose. It is fundamentally impossible for a liberal to posses intelligence. Intelligence forbids liberalism.


16 posted on 05/13/2015 6:21:47 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Ummm ... er ... they’re our traditional college football rivals?


17 posted on 05/13/2015 6:23:53 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("He's not my prophet, he's just some dead bloke." ~ Mark Steyn)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Good analysis. I hadn’t thought about it quite that way.


18 posted on 05/13/2015 6:24:39 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("He's not my prophet, he's just some dead bloke." ~ Mark Steyn)
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To: Tax-chick

That is a fine and well reasoned explanation. :)


19 posted on 05/13/2015 6:27:45 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Oklahoma vs. Arkansas.

(I wasn’t expecting the question ... I’m surprised I came up with anything.)


20 posted on 05/13/2015 6:30:30 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("He's not my prophet, he's just some dead bloke." ~ Mark Steyn)
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