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Scientists undercount trees by 2.6 trillion, but assure us animals going extinct
American Thinker ^ | 09/03/2015 | NewsMachete

Posted on 09/03/2015 6:50:18 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Every so often you will see articles warning that some species is going extinct. And usually it's not really a species -- you never hear about "leopards" going extinct, usually it's "purple dotted left handed bisexual Nepalese leopards" or some subvariety.  We are assured they are going extinct because fewer have been seen recently.

But the Earth is so big, how can we really be sure that some subspecies is going extinct just because we see fewer of them? After all, only three percent of the land mass of the Earth is urbanized. Animals could easily be hidden in the other 97%.

This fallacy becomes clear when scientists reveal that they have undercounted the number of trees on the earth--by a mere 2.6 trillion. Formerly scientists believed there were 400 million trees. Now they believe the number is slightly higher, in the range of 3 trillion trees.

The 3 trillion figure is seven and a half times more than the previous estimate of 400 billion trees worldwide as of 2005. That estimate, which translates to about 61 trees for every person, was made by a professor of environmental studies at Evergreen State College in Olympia, Washington, based on NASA satellite images.

How could they make such an enormous error? Trees can't hide. Trees can be viewed in satellite photos. Trees can't move around. And yet, they made such an enormous error.

Now, animals are much more difficult to count, because they can hide, they do move around, and they cannot be found by satellite photos. So the next time you hear that some left-handed New Guinea green spotted tree frog is on the verge of extinction, take it with a grain of salt.


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1 posted on 09/03/2015 6:50:18 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Science is a Sacred Cow


2 posted on 09/03/2015 6:54:02 AM PDT by samtheman (2014: Voters elect Repubs to congress... 2015: Repubs defund NOTHING... 2016: Trump/(Cruz or Palin))
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To: SeekAndFind

The science is not open to debate or question.


3 posted on 09/03/2015 6:54:22 AM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: FatherofFive

WASN’T IT 7. SOMETHING YESTERDAY ?


4 posted on 09/03/2015 6:55:12 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Two comments:

The missing animals are hiding in the previously uncounted trees.

And, I wonder if this unreckoned biomass, which takes up enormous amounts of CO2, throws off the disaster calculations of carbon-dioxide driven global warming (not that the true believers would ever admit that).


5 posted on 09/03/2015 6:56:13 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: SeekAndFind

I just wish the people who make the decisions would take some of these “scientific findings” with a grain of salt before they do something stupid that affects the rest of us. That was some big “mistake” in the counting of those trees. How big is the margin of error in certain other “scientific findings”? Like climate change,icebergs melting,polar bears disappearing,etc.,etc.


6 posted on 09/03/2015 6:56:56 AM PDT by oldtech
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Many “scientists” are people with political agendas. Their are an embarrassment to science. In celebration of their tree undercount I’m going to chop down a few trees today and burn them. Hey, eco-nuts...enjoy the burn.


7 posted on 09/03/2015 6:57:05 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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Now, animals are much more difficult to count, because they can hide, they do move around, and they cannot be found by satellite photos. So the next time you hear that some left-handed New Guinea green spotted tree frog is on the verge of extinction, take it with a grain of salt.

Like Bigfoot. We know they're there because they've been seen for hundreds of years; we know they're rare and cautious because they are seldom seen; but going extinct? Actually their range appears to be increasing unless there are a whole big bunch of hoaxers out there!

8 posted on 09/03/2015 7:00:28 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Can we now cut this bulls**t “save the trees” crap and go back to using paper grocery bags???


9 posted on 09/03/2015 7:05:01 AM PDT by ObozoMustGo2012
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I prefer plastic because they have handles, don’t rip from top to bottom if you look at them sternly, and several of them can easily be carried with one hand.


10 posted on 09/03/2015 7:13:37 AM PDT by Tucker39 (Welcome to America! Now speak English; and keep to the right....In driving, in Faith, and politics.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’ve heard there are more trees today in the U.S than when Lincoln was president . . .


11 posted on 09/03/2015 7:25:51 AM PDT by ▀udda▀udd (>> F U B O << "What the hell kind of country is this if I can only hate a man if he's white?")
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To: SeekAndFind

Extreme TREEEEEEEEEEEEEE Huggers

https://youtu.be/tFUDEmMjC-c


12 posted on 09/03/2015 7:26:19 AM PDT by TomGuy
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Formerly scientists believed there were 400 million trees. Now they believe the number is slightly higher, in the range of 3 trillion trees.

Bad typo here from the American Thinker Blog - s/b 400 BILLION as shown in included quote. Easy error but bad editing.

That being said, 400 billion to 3 trillion is such an underestimate as to be head-shaking. That is an error of counting 1 for every 75 that are there between 2 studies a decade apart, in other words a real whopper! Especially when the referred article also mentions 15+ billion trees cut every year, a rate that would deforest the planet in 27 years without replanting.

Of course in the article there is the obligatory hand-wringing about how horrible humans have been to the trees; "In fact, the study concludes that the global number of trees has fallen by roughly 46 percent since the start of human civilization." Does a tree grow in Brooklyn?

The original source of all of this is "Mapping tree density at a global scale," published Wednesday (09/03/15) in the journal Nature.

13 posted on 09/03/2015 7:30:48 AM PDT by SES1066 (Quality, Speed or Economical - Any 2 of 3 except in government - 1 at best but never #3!)
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14 posted on 09/03/2015 7:43:28 AM PDT by Marko413
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Well, I do recall our lord and master President Obeyme DID declare it was time to put science in its rightful place not too long ago (”rightful place” being solidly in defense of government edicts and declarations, which is as it should be, if those guys really want their grant money). File under “Who you gonna believe”.


15 posted on 09/03/2015 7:56:07 AM PDT by normbal (normbal. somewhere in socialist occupied America)
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... the next time you hear that some left-handed New Guinea green spotted tree frog is on the verge of extinction, take it with a grain of salt.

That's silly.

The only way I eat left-handed New Guinea green spotted tree frogs is with much more than "a grain" of salt.

FMCDH(BITS)

16 posted on 09/03/2015 8:18:45 AM PDT by nothingnew (Hemmer and MacCullum are the worst on FNC)
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Science is an arm of the DNC.

Pray America is waking


17 posted on 09/03/2015 8:22:11 AM PDT by bray (Trump and Cruz to the White House)
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To: SeekAndFind

The author needs to check his math or data.

If there are now 3 trillion trees rather than the previously thought 400 million, the undercount is 2.999600 trillion.

My guess is the previous count was 400 BILLION.


18 posted on 09/03/2015 8:40:44 AM PDT by aquila48
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how can we really be sure that some subspecies is going extinct just because we see fewer of them?

The method of enumeration is not a reliable method to arrive a a conclusion by induction.To arrive at a true conclusion by induction one must determine a proven causal relationship between entities that necessitates the conclusion.

19 posted on 09/03/2015 8:41:45 AM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: aquila48
The author needs to check his math or data.

If there are now 3 trillion trees rather than the previously thought 400 million, the undercount is 2.999600 trillion.

My guess is the previous count was 400 BILLION.


But you don't really expect an academic "scientist" to keep track of all those zeros do you?

/S

20 posted on 09/03/2015 9:52:29 AM PDT by az_gila
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