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US consumer finally losing the will to shop
FT.com ^ | Last updated: October 15, 2015 12:08 am | James Mackintosh

Posted on 10/15/2015 12:30:21 AM PDT by SaveFerris

Overall sales growth below forecasts and sales excluding cars and petrol flat

When the going gets tough, investors have grown used to betting on the tough going shopping. Every wobble of the past few years saw the consumer ignoring currency collapses, geopolitics and even government brushes with bankruptcy, and instead heading for the mall.

The same has been true this year. The best-performing stocks in the US, UK and eurozone are in the defensive consumer staples and the racier consumer discretionary sectors. Almost no other sectors managed to make money, at least in dollar terms. Even in emerging markets, over the past six months consumer stocks have been the best performers, although they still fell.

It is not just the stock market that has relied on consumers. The world has been looking to the US to provide an economic lead, and US growth has come mainly from consumption (recently investment has been OK, too).

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: consumer; consumerspending; consumerstaples; economy; globalcrisis; stockmarket; uscrisis
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From Drudge link.

later in the article:

"But there is evidence to support a more positive view, too: the strong jobs market"

Strong jobs market? Yeah, LOL.

1 posted on 10/15/2015 12:30:21 AM PDT by SaveFerris
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To: SaveFerris

Just wait until they raise Interest Rates, kaboom.

I think it will happen the moment a Republican is sworn in as President.


2 posted on 10/15/2015 12:32:52 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (THEY LIVE, and we're the only ones wearing the Sunglasses.)
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To: Kickass Conservative

[Just wait until they raise Interest Rates, kaboom.]

I agree. This may be why the GOPe is trying to lose with the guaranteed loser, Jeb Bush. If it doesn’t blow up by the election, and I’ll be surprised if it doesn’t, it most certainly will in the early days of the next President.

The charades of the past 7 years, especially, will be laid bare. If they’re stupid enough to try and raise rates, it will start the cycle, IMHO, that they won’t be able to back out of no matter what they try. Few have discretionary income and some, I think, are betting on their 401k’s paper value.

I still meet people who think it’s 2003-2004 out there. Nothing could be further from the truth. Things were quite a bit harder even then, but it’s far and away different from now.


3 posted on 10/15/2015 12:38:36 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Be a blessing to a stranger today for some have entertained angels unaware)
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To: SaveFerris

In CA I refuse to aid punitive government taxes as much as possible and we only purchase what is absolutely necessary.

Let the illegals support the corrupt deviates running state government.


4 posted on 10/15/2015 12:41:52 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

Any city raises taxes near me, on the rare occasion I can shop, I shop less and only if necessary in those places.


5 posted on 10/15/2015 12:45:55 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Be a blessing to a stranger today for some have entertained angels unaware)
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To: SaveFerris

Its not the will to go shopping I lost, just the funds to do it with... I unlike our government, cant spend what I don’t have!


6 posted on 10/15/2015 12:47:48 AM PDT by AzNASCARfan
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To: AzNASCARfan

Yeah, me too. Except for a really brief period last year.

Then, WalMart (yes) had a shotgun I wanted on a Black Friday sale, about another 20% off of a price that was $30 cheaper than other Wal-Mart stores (and their current price).

It had just been put out that day. So it was coming home with me. Of course I didn’t know how briefly I was going to be able to be a consumer. All I did was lock it away anyways, LOL.


7 posted on 10/15/2015 1:01:14 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Be a blessing to a stranger today for some have entertained angels unaware)
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To: SaveFerris

US consumers, caught between government-stimulated inflation, government-stimulated rises in healthcare costs, government taxation, and an endless variety of Obama’s Marxist intrusions into business and private life no longer have the CASH to shop.


8 posted on 10/15/2015 1:02:42 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: SaveFerris

People are spending their money on traveling. With gas prices so low they are trapping all over the United States. Why be in a store when you can be on the beach? I know this is not the beach but Disney World in Orlando was packed to the limit the 10 days I was there with the family. Vacations are the hot thing to do this year. Nobody wants to be in a stuffy store.


9 posted on 10/15/2015 1:02:49 AM PDT by napscoordinator (Walker for President 2016. The only candidate with actual real RESULTS!!!!! The rest...talkers!)
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To: Kickass Conservative

the interest rates are ridiculously low. It should be a crime to keep them that low. It is fake. And yes they will rise under Republicans which will continue the tale of Democratic Party is better for the economy then Republicans. The only one that screwed up any economy was Bush II and we paid dearly for it for 8 years of Obama.


10 posted on 10/15/2015 1:04:18 AM PDT by napscoordinator (Walker for President 2016. The only candidate with actual real RESULTS!!!!! The rest...talkers!)
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To: SaveFerris
I've just flat out become a distrustful old codger

EVERY money/finance report, no matter the source, is inventing plot to justify ... they really aren't sure WHAT'S happening nor what to do about it.

I've come to believe the unemployment rate in the US is closer to 30% than not

That people are buying what they need because of the fear foisted on us by a political world that no longer makes sense

The only stable thing people can hang their hat on is the faith they have developed in Donald Trump ... merely because they believe him when he says he's gonna' make America great again

The devil is in the details and we HEAR the words that seem to make sense and that they will work ... but there is a nagging understanding that there is an enemy SO intent on destroying us as a free nation ... and subliminally we're beginning to suspect we are already neutered ...

There will be no Mussolini take-down, no Ceausescu ... not that we want to be monsters .... but we want the attack to end ... and I'm afraid we don't have the will to kill

Politics is our only hope at this time ... and because that is almost a religion (we want to BELIEVE something good will happen), th