Skip to comments.Some Tech Companies Find Ways Not To Hire Americans
Posted on 12/06/2015 11:29:38 AM PST by SeekAndFind
Lawmakers continue to wrangle over a bill that would overhaul the nation's immigration system. One provision in this bill would allow companies to import a lot more skilled workers. The tech industry has lobbied hard for this, despite fears among some American workers about the extra competition.
Illinois Senator Dick Durbin says the bill has American workers covered. --Employers will be given a chance to hire a temporary foreign worker when truly needed. But first, they'll be required to recruit Americans. No exceptions, no excuses,-- he said.
Still, making companies recruit Americans isn't the same as making them hire them.
If you talk to disgruntled tech workers much, sooner or later one of them is going to send you this video. It shows a Pittsburgh immigration lawyer at what looks like a seminar for clients in 2007. In the video, he's telling clients what to do when they want to sponsor one of their foreign workers for a permanent visa -- a green card. The government requires employers to prove they looked for American workers first. So the companies have to advertise the job. But the lawyer tells them they don't have to advertise it too conspicuously.
--Our goal is, clearly, not to find a qualified and interested U.S. worker,-- the lawyer in the video says. He later adds, --We're going to find a place where ... we're complying with the law and hoping -- and likely -- not to find qualified and interested worker applicants.--
Immigration law firms do this all the time: They show employers how to recruit Americans without actually having to hire them. This lawyer didn't want to talk to NPR, maybe because anti-visa activists have been sending this video around for years. It's Exhibit A in their argument that recruiting rules are a sham.
In the parts of the country where tech companies are prevalent, this kind of --faux recruiting-- is common knowledge. But people in the industry quickly learn not to waste their time on certain job listings, says Orion Hughes, a software tester.
--A lot of us are aware of that ruse,-- he says.
Hughes and others avoid the listings with overly specific requirements, such as the number of years in --the job offered.-- That often means the employer just wants to make permanent a temporary foreign worker who's already in the job. And if you're stubborn enough to apply anyway, Hughes says that interview is going to be awkward.
--If you want to put yourself in that manager's shoes, it's an uncomfortable situation for them,-- he says. --They will [have a] kind of a sour facial expression, and they'll go from one question to the next. They are finding some reason to exclude you.--
Employers usually go through these motions only when they're sponsoring a foreigner for a permanent visa. But now the Senate immigration bill would extend a similar requirement to temp workers: the foreigners on the H-1B visas which have become so common, and controversial, in lower-end tech jobs. The bill would have employers post those jobs online first, and there'd be more recruiting rules for companies that use H-1Bs a lot. It sounds good, but it's a move that seems to ignore all the ill will that's been generated over the years by insincere recruiting.
--No one is ever hired,-- says Bruce Morrison, a former Democratic congressman from Connecticut.
Morrison helped design the current work visa system, but now he's an immigration lawyer and a lobbyist. The --good faith-- recruiting process, he says, comes with a fundamental flaw, he says.
--Which is, it doesn't start until you've already picked the person you want,-- Morrison says. --The decision whether to hire an American already happened -- and you didn't.--
Morrison's one of many experts who've given up on these recruiting rules. But he offers a solution to the problem: Have the government charge employers a heftier fee when hiring a foreigner.
--Create the economic circumstance where it costs you a lot more to hire a foreigner,-- Morrison says. --And you'll only do it if you can't find an American who's suitable.--
The Senate bill takes small steps in this direction, but Morrison thinks it's not nearly enough. The bill actually removes the recruiting rule for some of the permanent visas -- and he's happy about that. Morrison's been lobbying to get more green cards to skilled workers. But now it looks like the --recruit-Americans-first-- idea is being shifted to temporary visas, the H-1Bs.
That means the tech industry will still be plagued by insincere job listings and bogus interviews, and the undercurrent of resentment that they create.
The article could have been written 15 years ago and nothing has changed.
So? Small companies are springing up in the tech world all the time.
Let the big ones accelerate their trip to the obsolescence pile by not hiring the best.
Been saying this for years. Anyway lots of times he foreigners hired dont haveall the years demanded, and not every single app/area of expertise, they just never really needd it in the first place, or could use something else instead, or pay them a percentage less for a skill area they dont have but claimed was needed but really wasn’t.
MANY tech interviews in Silicon Valley are FAKE and have the goal from the outset of NOT hiring you, the real American born here.
Even the RECRUITERS are Indians in Mumbai, calling you from overseas. And even they often know NOTHING about the actual requirements of the position.
They can rattle off a few a acronyms and THATS IT.
In Mountain View I once interviewed a girl who had borrowed the resume of her friend, altering only the name, address and phone number.
Didnt even know what a Scanning Electron Microscope WAS, to say nothing of using one.
She wasnt embarrassed.
This is the way citizens of the world think. They have no National culture or loyalty and are small minded/non-ethical. They are foreigners or foreigners in their own land.
This had been happening for 15 years. Americans can not get jobs. A deliberate choice to disenfranchise Americans.
PERM Fake Job Ads defraud Americans to secure green cards fo
This is a 2007 video. I was livid when I watched this. I hope the next AG prosecutes this whole bunch under the RICO act.
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