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Vikings' mysterious abandonment of Greenland was not due to climate change, study suggests
The Washington Post via Alaska Dispatch News ^ | December 7, 2015 | Chris Mooney

Posted on 12/07/2015 6:24:36 PM PST by skeptoid

It has often been cited as one of the classic examples of how changes in climate have shaped human history.

Circa the year 985, Erik the Red led 25 ships from Iceland to Greenland, launching a Norse settlement there and giving the vast ice continent the name "Greenland." Within just a few decades, the Norse -- sometimes also dubbed Vikings -- would make it to Newfoundland as well. They maintained settlements of up to a few thousand people in southwest Greenland for several centuries, keeping livestock and hunting seals, building churches whose ruins still stand today, and sending back valuable walrus tusks and other prizes for trade -- until, that is, these settlements were abandoned by the mid-1400s.

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Wishy-washy verbage, and they cite MICHAEL MANN as an authority!

What a dumptruck full of del caca of del toro.

(feel free to correct my Mexican lingo}

1 posted on 12/07/2015 6:24:36 PM PST by skeptoid
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To: skeptoid

Hard to believe these days the norse people THE VIKINGS are being taken over by sand rats and crying about it. YOUR ANSCESTORS ARE FLIPPING IN THIER GRAVES


2 posted on 12/07/2015 6:26:45 PM PST by ronnie raygun (If we dont stand we will fall hard)
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To: skeptoid
It musta been the Federal Reserve and Ms. Yellen.

Or maybe they had an immigration policy that got them on Hussein's bad side.

3 posted on 12/07/2015 6:26:48 PM PST by Paladin2 (my non-desktop devices are no longer allowed to try to fix speling and punctuation, nor my gran-mah.)
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To: ronnie raygun

The Nordic smart DNA emigrated between ~1840 and 1920.


4 posted on 12/07/2015 6:28:08 PM PST by Paladin2 (my non-desktop devices are no longer allowed to try to fix speling and punctuation, nor my gran-mah.)
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To: skeptoid

The Vikings didn’t enforce yearly emission inspections?


5 posted on 12/07/2015 6:29:10 PM PST by patro (Phrogs Forever)
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To: skeptoid

The Vikings trained Hunting Seals?


6 posted on 12/07/2015 6:29:55 PM PST by Paladin2 (my non-desktop devices are no longer allowed to try to fix speling and punctuation, nor my gran-mah.)
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To: skeptoid

Mann made hocus-pocus hand waving caca.


7 posted on 12/07/2015 6:32:34 PM PST by Paladin2 (my non-desktop devices are no longer allowed to try to fix speling and punctuation, nor my gran-mah.)
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To: skeptoid

The reason is simple.

They were living in Greenland during a temporary warm spell. Even so they were pretty close to the edge. Still they were hardy and their animals were hardy so they did OK.

Next thing you know it cools down and close to the edge goes over the edge and it is just too cold to live as anything even remotely civilized.


8 posted on 12/07/2015 6:33:05 PM PST by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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To: skeptoid


9 posted on 12/07/2015 6:37:08 PM PST by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING ’VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: skeptoid

Michael Mann is a denier of non-man-made climate. He denies the Little Ice Age. Supposedly, the glaciers that are now pulling back were always at their current extent. That Viking villages have been exposed upon the retreat of the glaciers only proves that they like to live underneath glaciers and then, for no reason, gave up that life style choice.


10 posted on 12/07/2015 6:38:09 PM PST by Redmen4ever
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To: skeptoid

Frauds like Michael Mann and others in the global-warming crowd have an interest in denying any real climate change before the 1700s, because they want to blame everything on the Industrial Revolution (Man) - so previous, natural climate swings ruin that exclusivity.

BTW, just curious ... Mann saying derisively the Medieval warm Period was localized, not global ... then how can he justify using the ring count from only those 6 Siberian trees to represent, globally, his flat climate for that period? Didn’t he just admit to over-extrapolating?


11 posted on 12/07/2015 6:41:48 PM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: skeptoid

They were in the midst of creating and end times calendar and learned the Mayans had already complete theirs.

In disgust, they up and left, without a trace, in protest.


12 posted on 12/07/2015 6:42:09 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy" 6Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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Tis The Season
To End The FReepathon


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13 posted on 12/07/2015 6:42:43 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: JoeProBono

A relatively small community could just have few bad years in a row for whatever possibly multiple reasons and be wiped out.


14 posted on 12/07/2015 6:43:30 PM PST by Paladin2 (my non-desktop devices are no longer allowed to try to fix speling and punctuation, nor my gran-mah.)
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To: skeptoid

Walrus-tusk/seal-skin trade disaster prequel to the Mountain Man beaver-skin/silk hat shift of the 1830’s?


15 posted on 12/07/2015 6:43:49 PM PST by Rebelbase
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To: skeptoid

It’s well known that early Vikings abandoned Greenland because they were so deeply offended by the “dumb Swede” and “dumb Norwegian” jokes.


16 posted on 12/07/2015 6:45:09 PM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (This space for rent.)
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To: yarddog

“Next thing you know it cools down and close to the edge goes over the edge and it is just too cold to live as anything even remotely civilized.”

I read some article years ago where they (Nat’l Geographic??) or some “expert” came up with the idea that things got cold and the farming and herds went bad. The natives survived by hunting. BUT - by that time the Vikings were Christian, and wouldn’t participate in the pre-hunt rituals with the natives as they were pagan rituals.

So - the natives remained, and the Vikings left/died. I’m not sure how much actual evidence they had of the refusal to participate in the pagan rituals. Although their trash dumps (middens) show few fish, seal or whale bones in them - which were all abundant in the area.


17 posted on 12/07/2015 6:45:22 PM PST by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts It is happening again.)
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It was because they were so terrified by the Seahawks that they fled screaming all the way back to Norway?

Oops. Wrong Vikings. Never mind.

18 posted on 12/07/2015 6:48:08 PM PST by Flatus I. Maximus (Obstruct. Oppose. Overthrow. Obama.)
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To: Paladin2; Vendome

The Vikings were in Greenland for over 300 years (1000 - 1300s), and they kept extensive journals that have survived.

In those, there are first-hand accounts of a definite progression of weather getting colder, summers shortening and crops failing, and glaciers steadily advancing down from the mountains. Pretty strong evidence of climate change (and a little scary), but of course, the GW advocates don’t want to talk about THAT evidence.


19 posted on 12/07/2015 6:51:34 PM PST by canuck_conservative
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Similarly, Judith Jesch, who heads the Centre for the Study of the Viking Age at the University of Nottingham in the UK, wrote in a recent book that “The causes of the end of [Norse] Greenland may therefore. . .need to be sought in economic, cultural and demographic factors, and perhaps the breakdown of the social order that maintained the economy.”


There's that very scientific word “may” that will just get her another grant and more published papers in the GW/CC scam field...

20 posted on 12/07/2015 6:59:46 PM PST by az_gila
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