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‘I mean, you’re about to die’: Teen who urged boyfriend to kill himself will stand trial
washingtonpost.com ^ | July 2 at 6:00 AM | Sarah Larimer

Posted on 07/02/2016 9:13:22 AM PDT by BenLurkin

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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

this was an act of comission, not an act of omission. She actively conducted herself in behavior that demonstrated a depravity to human life. That is a crime. She knew it by confiding in an e mail that said if they find our texts she can go to jail. Enough for the prosecutor to go forward. Pray for a conviction.


41 posted on 07/02/2016 10:04:31 AM PDT by tenthirteen
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To: BenLurkin
I disagree with this with all my heart.

It's not like she hypnotized him. And he didn't have to communicate with her.

42 posted on 07/02/2016 10:04:50 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: lee martell
if the facts were known, she probably degraded the boy for his sexual inexperience or clumsy attempts at having sex....!!!!!
43 posted on 07/02/2016 10:08:38 AM PDT by B212
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To: Pelham

I’d hit it.


44 posted on 07/02/2016 10:09:33 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Hillary: "Weapons of war have no place on our streets."... Laz: "Muslims are weapons of war.")
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To: trebb
but I can also hear the defense stating, rightfully so, that she was not qualified to understand his issues properly. It's why we have "expert" witnesses and rely on testimony of so-called "experts" in some cases.

So if I'm not an expert in ballistics and anatomy, I could get away with shooting someone because I didn't understand the harm that a bullet could cause?

She had 100% understanding that he actions would cause his death. She even admitted that in texts to others.

This wasn't a casual conversation, she helped him plot and plan his suicide. She even made decisions like where and when.

If he had robbed a bank and been shot and killed, and these kinds of texts from her had been found about the planning and the encouraging to go through with it, she would be charged in the same manner.

45 posted on 07/02/2016 10:09:43 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius (www.wilsonharpbooks.com - Sign up for my new release e-mail and get my first novel for free)
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To: BenLurkin

Her crime, in our assisted suicide gulag, is not being an M.D., so she should be prosecuted for practicing new age medicine without a license. Little chance that liberals will spot the hypocrisy in this.


46 posted on 07/02/2016 10:21:50 AM PDT by DPMD (o)
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To: trebb
If you think her actions and words should be covered under the right to free speech, I disagree. She may have had the right to say it once, perhaps even twice, but then her right to this form of free speech evaporates.

This is exactly how our enemies use our Constitution against us, because they take the concept and run it to the extreme. Free speech does not mean you can say whatever is on your mind, repeatedly, when those words lead to a death that was not one carried out by those who are legally sanctioned to carry out a death penalty. An example would be repeated calls for a known serial killer to receive the death penalty. That would be covered.

47 posted on 07/02/2016 10:22:19 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: B212

Probably. Or she embarrassed him indirectly by telling him about all her bedroom conquests and adventures, leaving no details out, however vulgar. These are stories she would usually be sharing with another girl, who would respond describing her own escapades, be they real, imagined or exaggerated.


48 posted on 07/02/2016 10:24:30 AM PDT by lee martell
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To: BenLurkin

Bad, but how is that different from the state encouraging people to take advantage of doctor-assisted and government-paid suicide?


49 posted on 07/02/2016 10:25:36 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Islam, rather than a religion, is primarily a totalitarian political ideology aiming for world domin)
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To: Robert DeLong; AnotherUnixGeek
How does one kill them self with a gas-powered water pump?

It didn't involve a connection to the tail pipe. I was going to say how did work, but since you're asking how to commit suicide, I'll pass.

50 posted on 07/02/2016 10:25:36 AM PDT by wideminded
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She looks Irish. This should not matter, but she’s a pretty girl. I’m concerned that if this goes to trial, by that time she would have been coached on how to fake sadness and despair. The Jury will give her a strict warning about ‘values’ (during which she will roll her Irish eyes) and then probation.


51 posted on 07/02/2016 10:27:50 AM PDT by lee martell
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I agree, camel/tent, slope/slippery.

If you wine & dine a woman for weeks/months and then finally convince her to have sex with you, could she later claim that you talked her into it so now it’s rape?

Awful, evil, rotten, sure, but criminally responsible????? I say no.


52 posted on 07/02/2016 10:28:39 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: BenLurkin

Interesting. Is the verbal urging of suicide a cause of his death? Is their a statute forbidding the verbal urging of suicide under penalty of imprisonment? What is the case law for any analogous facts? HMMM!


53 posted on 07/02/2016 10:29:59 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS
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I disagree with this with all my heart. It's not like she hypnotized him. And he didn't have to communicate with her.

I'd say that proof of feeling he had to communicate with her is telling her he couldn't go on with it and that he got out of the car, when he knew she wanted to him to stay in and die. And I'd also say that proof of being hypnotized is that she was then able to command him back into the car to die when he didn't want to do it - but he did, and he died. What higher definitions of these terms is even possible? So given those proofs, what is all your heart based on?

54 posted on 07/02/2016 10:34:01 AM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: lee martell

100%


55 posted on 07/02/2016 10:40:38 AM PDT by B212
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To: trebb

I think you are confusing a lot of unrelated things. She encouraged and manipulated a person into doing harm... Just because the harm was to himself makes no difference.

Charles Manson personally killed no one, but he was properly convicted of 7 counts of first degree murder.

There is no confusion in the law about this. She should indeed face these charges.


56 posted on 07/02/2016 10:44:53 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
Interesting. Is the verbal urging of suicide a cause of his death? Is their a statute forbidding the verbal urging of suicide under penalty of imprisonment? What is the case law for any analogous facts? HMMM!>

Let's replace the action of suicide with another action, murder, and see if it changes things:

"Is the verbal urging of murder a cause of his death? Is there a statute forbidding the verbal urging of murder under the penalty of imprisonment?"

Yes, there is. Conspiracy if nothing else. Planning, urging, and manipulating someone into committing a crime is, in and of itself, criminal behavior. When a criminal action leads to a death, those involved can be charged in the death, even if they did not take direct action.

Think about the getaway driver at a bank robbery. If one of the robbers is killed, the driver can be charged with manslaughter or even murder.

57 posted on 07/02/2016 10:46:30 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius (www.wilsonharpbooks.com - Sign up for my new release e-mail and get my first novel for free)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
Interesting. Is the verbal urging of suicide a cause of his death? Is their a statute forbidding the verbal urging of suicide under penalty of imprisonment? What is the case law for any analogous facts? HMMM!

Irrelevant details. What matters is whether she compelled him against his will. She did. Therefore she murdered him, knowingly, deliberately and with premeditation. Add aggravated malice for stopping him from escaping. 1st degree aggravated murder. Execute her - with prejudice.

58 posted on 07/02/2016 10:48:35 AM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Pelham

Nothing good EVER comes from Evil meeting Crazy.


59 posted on 07/02/2016 10:48:43 AM PDT by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam- it's about Islam. That death cult must be eradicated.)
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Wow, I think we’ve found Hillary’s new aide.


60 posted on 07/02/2016 10:51:54 AM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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