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Hundreds of California recycling centers shut down
AP ^ | July 19, 2016 | Darcy Costello

Posted on 07/20/2016 3:42:42 PM PDT by PROCON

SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) -- More than a fifth of California's recycling redemption centers have closed in the last year, stripping consumers of easy access to recycling and limiting their ability to collect the deposits they made when purchasing bottles and cans.

More closures may follow, as the state's subsidy payment program, meant to help centers survive market fluctuations, has failed to keep up with rapid decreases in the value of plastic, glass and aluminum. The payment formula, advocates say, is too slow to cover the real costs of recycling.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: california; recycling
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Whoa, so after 3 decades they've finally discovered that recycling costs are more than the returns?

Perhaps they'll raise taxes to recover the losses.

1 posted on 07/20/2016 3:42:42 PM PDT by PROCON
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To: PROCON

You ain’t see nuthin’ yet!

Where I live all residences receive recycling bins. There is a long list of things that one CANNOT put in the bins. Among those on the list is plastic!

The patients are running the asylum!


2 posted on 07/20/2016 3:46:14 PM PDT by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise
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as the state's subsidy payment program

Everything government touches turns to crap. Let the market dictate recycling.

3 posted on 07/20/2016 3:46:36 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Moderate Muslims are the fansf cheering for blood during a hockey game)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
"Everything government touches turns to crap." Yep, everything.
4 posted on 07/20/2016 3:48:02 PM PDT by Fungi (Make America America again.)
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To: PROCON

When I use tap water to rinse out the bottom of the popcan so the recycle bin doesn’t get sticky, do I waste more than I save?


5 posted on 07/20/2016 3:48:30 PM PDT by donna (No one should be allowed to become a citizen or even a resident if they support Sharia Law.)
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To: PROCON

My first trip to California, I was shocked at the stench in a rest area ... composting toilets. I actually like California, despise what has happened to it politically, though.


6 posted on 07/20/2016 3:48:58 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: PROCON

There really is no tangible market for recycled materials. Most (>90%) ends up in a landfill as a result. But, it makes tree huggers feel superior.


7 posted on 07/20/2016 3:49:29 PM PDT by nesnah (Liberals - the petulant children of politics)
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To: spel_grammer_an_punct_polise

The ONLY items that are cost effective to recycle are metals, specifically aluminum.


8 posted on 07/20/2016 3:51:22 PM PDT by PROCON (Americans First or Terrorists First - Choose in November)
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To: nesnah

Do you a reference for that?


9 posted on 07/20/2016 3:51:48 PM PDT by Fungi (Make America America again.)
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To: PROCON

Surprise, Californians!
This is a TAX and a revenue steam for Moon Beam and his crew...enjoy!


10 posted on 07/20/2016 3:54:55 PM PDT by Rumplemeyer (The GOP should stand its ground - and fix Bayonets)
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"There really is no tangible market for recycled materials. Most (>90%) ends up in a landfill as a result."

Yep.

I remember seeing a Penn & Teller "Bull$hit" special on recycling.

They were almost apologetic, because they thought that recycling DID make sense.

Nope.

It's a BIG waste of time and money and provides absolutely no "benefit", particularly to mother earth.

You could make a *weak* argument about aluminum cans, as the homeless can pick them up and get some cash.

AFAIK, it is still CHEAPER to make the cans from raw materials than from recycled ones.

11 posted on 07/20/2016 3:55:53 PM PDT by boop (Where IS Hillary?)
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plus you burn a lot of gasoline and rubber up.... driving your $2.78 of bottles to the recycle centre


12 posted on 07/20/2016 3:56:50 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicians are not born. They're excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero)
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To: PROCON

Whatever doesn’t burn in my barrel gets put in someones dumpster.

I only have about 1-2 plastic grocery bags/mo of glass and cans to get rid of.


13 posted on 07/20/2016 3:57:25 PM PDT by digger48
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They passed them out here about a year ago. Hubby called them and told them to come pick it up, we’re not sorting your garbage for you so you can make money. They did. Lol


14 posted on 07/20/2016 4:00:24 PM PDT by sheana
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Yet we are still charged 5 cents per can which we are supposed to get back when we take our cans to the

non existent

recycling center.


15 posted on 07/20/2016 4:02:21 PM PDT by Persevero (NUTS)
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They take a nickel and pay .003 back.

They want you to donate it to the blue can.


16 posted on 07/20/2016 4:03:09 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: faithhopecharity
"plus you burn a lot of gasoline and rubber up.... driving your $2.78 of bottles to the recycle center"

Not to mention the folks who WASH their recyclables in hot soapy water, and remove the stickers from glass jars.

That HAS to be a net loss when it comes to energy expended, and water wasted.

17 posted on 07/20/2016 4:04:24 PM PDT by boop (Where IS Hillary?)
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To: Rumplemeyer
This is a TAX and a revenue steam for Moon Beam and his crew...enjoy!

Correct. CA government increasingly keeps for itself the container tax, collected at the point of sale, when there is no easy way for Joe Sixpack to turn in the containers for a refunding of the container tax.

This scheme also is bad for recycling, with bigger landfills from more discarded recyclables.

Effectively, the state gov benefits from reduced recycling and more pollution.

The Rats are thus proven perverse liars, once more.

18 posted on 07/20/2016 4:07:11 PM PDT by bkopto
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To: boop

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SC3CZBDz7Wg


19 posted on 07/20/2016 4:08:33 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Moderate Muslims are the fansf cheering for blood during a hockey game)
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To: Fungi

Think of it as the reverse Midas touch, except crap has a value as fertilizer.


20 posted on 07/20/2016 4:13:49 PM PDT by zek157
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