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To: CodeToad

Fees and taxes — very likely.

Also ...

Swedish telecom chief to steer web body ICANN to independence [USA Internet control expires Sept 30]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3394704/posts

Europe is seeking ‘internet ostracism’ to regulate ALL domain names [aka web addresses] throughout the world, and Obama is on board.

I realize you and Palmer have been discussing ways to work around TLD/Registrar oversight for websites [if it comes to that]. But it would still be a mess trying to work around it. And China might act as ICANN’s enforcer via cyber-warfare.


5 posted on 09/26/2016 6:39:57 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (ICANN giveaway complete after Friday. Call Congress. Yes to SB3031 HR5418)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

“I realize you and Palmer have been discussing ways to work around TLD/Registrar oversight for websites “

Um, with apologies, no we haven’t.

However, the actual answer is that the US Internet network may become independent, and all nations may seek to do the same. This would splinter the Internet. Not a major or significant issue for the US on whole, but it would have serious degradation consequences for the rest of the world.

Once again, the rest of the world hating on the US becomes their demise. Liberals are the most hate-filled little idiots God has ever created.


6 posted on 09/26/2016 6:42:58 AM PDT by CodeToad
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To: CincyRichieRich; PROCON; bushwon; BurrOh; The Westerner; HarborSentry

Friday is the Deadline.

‘IANA functions contract’ expires on Saturday.

FRegards ....


7 posted on 09/26/2016 6:45:16 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (ICANN giveaway complete after Friday. Call Congress. Yes to SB3031 HR5418)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
I realize you and Palmer have been discussing ways to work around TLD/Registrar oversight for websites [if it comes to that]. But it would still be a mess trying to work around it. And China might act as ICANN's enforcer via cyber-warfare.

I concluded that IP addresses are messy but workable. I also concluded that the Krebs attack was IP, not domain, and mucking up the DNS does not change the equation for those attacks. But Krebs linked to Schneier https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2016/09/someone_is_lear.html who thinks the DNS is a target:

Verisign is the registrar for many popular top-level Internet domains, like .com and .net. If it goes down, there's a global blackout of all websites and e-mail addresses in the most common top-level domains.

China is responsible at least indirectly for the attack on Krebs which leverages insecure Chinese routers and other internet devices. Google stepped up to protect Krebs but will only protect media and other politically chosen domains. The rest of us are SOL.

The current question is whether giving up legal authority makes things worse. Undoubtedly it does. But more workarounds will be needed regardless considering Schneier's statement about taking out Verisign's domain name lookup. The biggest problem will be that everything will be messy and balkanized. You may need a special browser, or a special features will be added to every browser to do some alternative form of IP address lookup, and whoever runs that may be able to censor sites they don't like.

25 posted on 09/26/2016 8:31:55 AM PDT by palmer (turn into nonpaper w no identifying heading and send nonsecure)
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