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Internet outage - Comm alternatives Emergency updates, FR contingency ham email & shortwave news
10/21/2016

Posted on 10/21/2016 5:22:51 PM PDT by MarchonDC09122009

In light of today's widespread Internet outages, we should discuss contingency plans for FR availability, news updates and emergency communications.

Please share what ham amateur radio shortwave frequencies to monitor for emergencies and news updates, as well as practical ham email on the HF and VHF bands.


TOPICS: Computers/Internet; Reference
KEYWORDS: fema; fr; frcontingency; ham; hamradio; outage; prepper; preppers; radio; repository; shortwave; shtf
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1. You can monitor amateur shortwave radio frequencies without a ham operator license. However, You MUST BE A LICENSED OPERATOR TO TRANSMIT ON AMATEUR RADIO band frequencies.

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EDERAL EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AGENCY:

FEMA VHF & UHF FREQUENCIES:

27650.0 27850.0 27900.0

138.100 138.225 ** NATIONWIDE Primary Repeater; (Repeats. 141.875) 138.575 139.100 139.225 139.450 139.825 139.925 139.950 140.025 140.900 140.925 141.725 ** NATIONWIDE Primary Simplex 141.875 Repeater Input to 138.225 141.950 142.025 142.200 142.230 Repeater Input 142.975 142.300 142.350 Simplex; Repeater Input to 143.000 142.375 Simplex; Reg. 09, 10, Repeater Input to 143.000 142.400 Simplex; Reg. 04 142.425 Simplex; Repeater Input to 143.000 142.925 Simplex; Reg. 02, 03, 05 142.935 142.950 142.975 Simplex; Repeats 142.230; Repeater Input to 143.000 143.000 Simplex; Repeats 142.350 Repeats 142.375 Repeats 142.425 Repeats 142.975 143.050 143.225 Mobiles 143.250 Repeater Input to 139.250 143.600 143.625 Simplex; Reg. VI 152.425 153.225 Repeats 158.130 158.130 Repeater Input to 153.225 163.100 DOE Common, National Emergency Training Center 163.225 164.8625 Ch. 2, Simplex; National Radio System Ch. 1, Repeats 165.6625; National Radio System 165.6625 Repeater Input to 164.8625, Simplex; National Radio System, Emergency Training 166.225 National Emergency Training Center 166.6125 Repeater Input to 168.400 167.925 Simplex; Regional EOC Net 4 167.975 Simplex; Regional EOC Net 2, Some DoD, DoE, NASA, NOAA, NRC Facilities; Repeats 173.1875; Regional EOC Net 1 168.075 Repeats 170.425 168.100 Repeats 170.450 168.350 National Emergency Training Center 168.400 Repeats 166.6125 168.700 Repeats 170.975 169.250 169.600 National Emergency Training Center 169.875 Simplex; Regional EOC Net 3 170.200 Federal Disaster Net 170.425 Repeater Input to 168.075 170.450 Repeater Input to 168.100 170.975 Repeater Input to 168.700 173.1875 Repeater Input to 167.975 409.125 453.525 ** All regions, for use in actual disasters only ====================================

FEDERAL EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AGENCY (FEMA)

CIVIL DEFENSE NATIONAL RADIO SYSTEM HF NETS

2.3210 FOXTROT 06 (SIMPLEX) 2.3610 FOXTROT 07 (SIMPLEX) 2.3750 FOXTROT 08 (SIMPLEX) 2.4460 FOXTROT 09 (SIMPLEX) 2.6590 FOXTROT 10 (SIMPLEX) 3.3420 FOXTROT 11 (SIMPLEX) 3.3800 FOXTROT 12 (SIMPLEX) 3.3890 FOXTROT 13 (SIMPLEX) 4.7810 FOXTROT 14 (SIMPLEX) 5.2120 FOXTROT 15 (SIMPLEX) (NIGHT EMERGENCY) 5.4030 FOXTROT 16 (SIMPLEX) 5.8220 FOXTROT 17 (SIMPLEX) 5.9620 FOXTROT 18 (SIMPLEX) 6.0500 FOXTROT 19 (SIMPLEX) 6.1070 FOXTROT 20 (SIMPLEX) 6.1090 FOXTROT 21 (SIMPLEX) 6.1520 FOXTROT 22 (SIMPLEX) 6.1770 FOXTROT 23 (SIMPLEX) 6.1800 FOXTROT 24 (SIMPLEX) 7.3490 FOXTROT 25 (SIMPLEX) (FIXED STATIONS) 9.4630 FOXTROT 26 (SIMPLEX) 10.1950 FOXTROT 27 (SIMPLEX) 10.4940 FOXTROT 28 (SIMPLEX) (DAY EMERGENCY) 10.5890 FOXTROT 29 (SIMPLEX) 11.7220 FOXTROT 30 (SIMPLEX) 11.8020 FOXTROT 31 (SIMPLEX) 11.9580 FOXTROT 32 (SIMPLEX) 12.0100 FOXTROT 33 (SIMPLEX) 12.2170 FOXTROT 34 (SIMPLEX) 14.4510 FOXTROT 35 (SIMPLEX) (FIXED STATIONS) 14.7770 FOXTROT 36 (SIMPLEX) 14.8370 FOXTROT 37 (SIMPLEX) (FIXED STATIONS) 14.8860 FOXTROT 38 (SIMPLEX) 14.9000 FOXTROT 39 (SIMPLEX) 14.9090 FOXTROT 40 (SIMPLEX) 16.2020 FOXTROT 41 (SIMPLEX) 16.4310 FOXTROT 42 (SIMPLEX) 17.5200 FOXTROT 43 (SIMPLEX) 17.6500 FOXTROT 44 (SIMPLEX) (EMERGENCY) 18.7450 FOXTROT 45 (SIMPLEX) 19.7580 FOXTROT 46 (SIMPLEX) 19.9700 FOXTROT 47 (SIMPLEX) 20.0280 FOXTROT 48 (SIMPLEX)

CIVIL DEFENSE NATIONAL RADIO SYSTEM VHF NETS

164.8625 NATIONAL ASSIGNMENT (SIMPLEX) 165.6625 NATIONAL ASSIGNMENT (SIMPLEX)

NATIONAL EMERGENCY TRAINING CENTER

163.1000 NATIONAL ASSIGNMENT (SIMPLEX) 166.2250 NATIONAL ASSIGNMENT (SIMPLEX) 168.3500 NATIONAL ASSIGNMENT (SIMPLEX) 169.6000 NATIONAL ASSIGNMENT (SIMPLEX)

FEDERAL EMERGENCY NET - PORTABLE REPEATERS

142.3750 CONTROL/MOBILE (REPEATER INPUT) 143.0000 REPEATER/MOBILE RELAY (REPEATER OUT) 142.2300 CONTROL/MOBILE (REPEATER INPUT) 142.9750 REPEATER/MOBILE RELAY (REPEATER OUT) 142.4250 CONTROL/MOBILE (REPEATER INPUT) 143.0000 REPEATER/MOBILE RELAY (REPEATER OUT) 142.9750 CONTROL/MOBILE (REPEATER INPUT) 143.0000 REPEATER/MOBILE RELAY (REPEATER OUT) 142.3500 CONTROL/MOBILE (REPEATER INPUT) 143.0000 REPEATER/MOBILE RELAY (REPEATER OUT) 166.6125 CONTROL/MOBILE (REPEATER INPUT) 168.4000 REPEATER/MOBILE RELAY (REPEATER OUT) 170.4250 CONTROL/MOBILE (REPEATER INPUT) 168.0750 REPEATER/MOBILE RELAY (REPEATER OUT) 170.4500 CONTROL/MOBILE (REPEATER INPUT) 168.1000 REPEATER/MOBILE RELAY (REPEATER OUT) 170.9750 CONTROL/MOBILE (REPEATER INPUT) 168.7000 REPEATER/MOBILE RELAY (REPEATER OUT)

NATIONAL EMERGENCY WARNING SYSTEM

173.1875 REGIONAL EOC NET 1 CONTROL/MOBILE (REPEATER INPUT) 167.9750 REGIONAL EOC NET 1 REPEATER/MOBILE RELAY (REPEATER OUT) 167.9750 REGIONAL EOC NET 2 (SIMPLEX) 169.8750 REGIONAL EOC NET 3 (SIMPLEX) 167.9250 REGIONAL EOC NET 4 (SIMPLEX)

COORDINATION

266.0500 FEMA/USAF COORDINATION 273.8000 FEMA/USAF COORDINATION 399.7500 FEMA/USAF COORDINATION 305.5500 FEMA/USAF COORDINATION 322.7500 FEMA/USAF COORDINATION 336.8000 FEMA/USAF COORDINATION 382.3500 FEMA/USAF COORDINATION 397.0500 FEMA/USAF COORDINATION

VHF CHANNELS REPORTED IN USE BY FEMA

27.6500 VHF (LOW) 27.8500 VHF (LOW) 27.9000 VHF (LOW) 138.2250 VHF 138.5750 VHF 139.1000 VHF 139.8250 VHF 139.4500 VHF 139.2250 VHF 139.9500 VHF 140.0250 VHF 140.9000 VHF 141.7250 VHF 141.8750 VHF 141.9500 VHF 142.0250 VHF 142.2300 VHF 142.3500 VHF 142.3750 VHF 142.4000 VHF 142.4250 VHF 142.9250 VHF 142.9500 VHF 142.9750 VHF 143.0000 VHF 143.0500 VHF 143.2500 VHF 143.6000 VHF 143.6250 VHF 163.1000 VHF 164.8625 VHF 165.6625 VHF 166.2250 VHF 167.9250 VHF 167.9750 VHF 168.3500 VHF 169.2500 VHF 169.6000 VHF 169.8750 VHF 170.2000 VHF 173.1875 VHF 409.1250 VHF

OPERATION SECURE NATIONWIDE HF NETS

2.3260 SIMPLEX 2.4110 SIMPLEX 2.4140 SIMPLEX 2.4190 SIMPLEX 2.4220 SIMPLEX 2.4390 SIMPLEX 2.4630 SIMPLEX 2.4660 SIMPLEX 2.4710 SIMPLEX 2.4740 SIMPLEX 2.4870 SIMPLEX 2.5110 SIMPLEX 2.5350 SIMPLEX 2.5690 SIMPLEX 2.5870 SIMPLEX 2.8010 SIMPLEX 2.8040 SIMPLEX 2.8120 SIMPLEX 5.1350 SIMPLEX 5.1400 SIMPLEX 5.1920 SIMPLEX 5.1950 SIMPLEX 7.4770 SIMPLEX 7.4800 SIMPLEX 7.8020 SIMPLEX 7.8050 SIMPLEX 7.9320 SIMPLEX 7.9350 SIMPLEX

1 posted on 10/21/2016 5:22:51 PM PDT by MarchonDC09122009
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To: MarchonDC09122009

Good. We should start preparing, just in case.


2 posted on 10/21/2016 5:24:41 PM PDT by FR_addict (Ryan needs to go!)
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To: MarchonDC09122009

M4L

Shortwave Frequencies


3 posted on 10/21/2016 5:25:15 PM PDT by Scrambler Bob
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To: MarchonDC09122009

FEDERAL EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AGENCY:

Foxtrot 06 2321.0 Regions 8, 9 & 10
Foxtrot 07 2361.0 Regions 6, 8, 9 & DOE
Foxtrot 08 2375.0 Region 4 & NRC
Foxtrot 09 2446.0 Regions 1, 3, 5, 9, 10, DOE & NRC
Foxtrot 10 2659.0 Regions 3, 4, 7, 8, 10, DOE & NRC
Foxtrot 11 3342.0 Regions 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 & NRC
Foxtrot 12 3380.0 Regions 5, 6, 8, 9, 10, DOE & NRC
Foxtrot 13 3390.0 Regions 5, 6, 7, 8, DOE & NRC
4603.0 Region 4 & DOE
Foxtrot 14 4781.0(4) Regions 5, 8, 9, 10 & NRC
5132.0
5137.0
5192.0
Foxtrot 15 5212.0(1) Night Pri., All Regions, DOE & NRC
5378.0 Region 4 & DOE
Foxtrot 16 5403.0 Regions 9 & 10
Foxtrot 17 5822.0 Regions 1 & 2
Foxtrot 18 5962.0 Regions 1 thru 6, 8 thru 10, DOE & NRC
Foxtrot 19 6050.0 Regions 3, 5, 8, 10, & NRC
Foxtrot 20 6107.0 Regions 3, 4, 6, 7, 8, 10 & NRC
Foxtrot 21 6109.0 All Regions, KAL22 & WAR42
Foxtrot 22 6152.0 Regions 3 thru 10 & NRC
Foxtrot 23 6177.0 Regions 6, 8, 10 & NRC
Foxtrot 24 6180.0
6809.0 Regions 9 & 10
Foxtrot 25 7349.0(2) Regions 1, 4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10, DOE & NRC
7357.0
7428.0 Region 4 & DOE
7533.5
7799.0
7802.0
7930.5
7929.0
8101.0
8177.0
Foxtrot 26 9463.0 Regions 9 & 10
Foxtrot 27 10195.0
Foxtrot 28 10494.0(1) Day Pri., All Regions, DOE & NRC
Foxtrot 29 10589.0 Regions 8, 9 & 10
10793.0 Region 9
11000.0
11118.0
11407.0
Foxtrot 30 11722.0 Regions 1, 4, 6, 8 & NRC
Foxtrot 31 11802.0 Regions 3, 6, 8, 9, 10, DOE & NRC
Foxtrot 32 11958.0(2) Regions 5, 7, 8, 9 & NRC
Foxtrot 33 12010.0 Regions 9 & 10
Foxtrot 49 12129.0
Foxtrot 34 12217.0(2) Regions 5, 6, 8, 9, 10 & NRC
13211.0
13247.0
Foxtrot 35 14451.0 All Regions & NRC
Foxtrot 36 14777.0 All Regions & NRC
Foxtrot 37 14837.0 All Regions & NRC
Foxtrot 38 14886.0 All Regions & NRC
Foxtrot 39 14900.0 All Regions & NRC
Foxtrot 40 14909.0 All Regions & NRC
Foxtrot 41 16202.0 Regions 9 & 10
Foxtrot 42 16431.0 Regions 9 & 10
Foxtrot 43 17520.0 Regions 9 & 10
Foxtrot 44 17650.0(3) Regions 5, 8, 9, 10 & NRC
Foxtrot 45 18745.0 Regions 9 & 10
Foxtrot 46 19758.0 Regions 9 & 10
Foxtrot 47 19970.0 Regions 9 & 10
Foxtrot 48 20028.0 All Regions & NRC
Foxtrot 50 20063.0
20405.5 WGY903 & WGY983
21866.0
Foxtrot 61 21919.0 WGY908 & WGY912
23533.5
25423.5
27850.0 WGY903 & WGY983

NOTES: (1) Calling/Guard frequency, Primary
(2) Point-to-Point primary frequencies.
(3) Calling/Guard frequency, Secondary
(4) RTTY is 85 baud/75Hz.N.

Region Callsign Location

WGY900 Operations, Warning & Support Division,
FEMA Headquarters, 500 C St.,N.W., Washington, DC
AV: 851-3311

01 J.W. McCormick Post Office & Court House, 4th. Floor,
Boston, MA 20109
COMSTA: WGY901 MAYNARD, MA. AV: 881-1670, 893-1780, 881-1190
WGY921 Concord, NH.
WGY931 Montpelier, VT.
WGY941 Augusta, ME.
WGY951 Hartford, CT.
WGY961 Farmington, MA.
WGY971 Providence, RI.

02 26 Federal Plaza, New York, NY 10287
COMSTA: WGY902 NEW YORK CITY, NY.
WGY932 St. Thomas, V.I.
WGY942 Albany, NY.
WGY982 North Trenton, NJ.
WGY992 San Juan, P.R.

03 Curtis Bldg., 7th. Floor, Sixth & Walnut St., Philadelphia, PA 19106
COMSTA: WGY903 OLNEY, MD. (PRIMARY Net Control Station)
AV: 231-1590, 725-1620, 831-3750, 851-3323
WGY923 Harrisburg, PA.
WGY933 Pikesville, MD.
WGY943 Charleston, WV.
WGY953 Delaware City, DE.
WGY963 Richmond, VA.
WGY983 Washington, DC.
WGY993 HHS (Charlottesville, VA.)

04 1371 Peachtree St, N.E., Suite 700, Atlanta, GA 30309
COMSTA: WGY904 THOMASVILLE, GA. (3rd. Alternate N.C.S.)
AV: 434-1552, 434-1990/1994, 436-1853
WGY914 Balboa Heights, Canal Zone
WGY924 Nashville, TN.
WGY934 Columbia, SC.
WGY944 Atlanta, GA.
WGY954 Montgomery, AL.
WGY964 Jackson, MS.
WGY974 Tallahassee, FL.
WGY984 Raleigh, NC.
WGY994 Frankfurt, KY.

05 300 S. Walker St., 24th. Floor, Chicago, IL 60606
COMSTA: WGY905 BATTLE CREEK, MI. (4th. Alternate N.C.S.)
AV: 369-6001
WGY925 Madison, WI.
WGY945 Columbus, OH.
WGY935 St. Paul, MN.
WGY955 Springfield, IL.
WGY965 Indianapolis, IN.
WGY975 Lansing, MI.

06 Federal Regional Center, 800 N. Loop 2, Denton, TX 76201
COMSTA: WGY906 DENTON, TX. (2nd. Alternate N.C.S.)
AV: 962-9200
WGY926 Oklahoma, City, OK.
WGY936 Santa Fe, NM.
WGY946 Baton Rouge, LA.
WGY956 Austin, TX.
WGY966 Conway, AR.

07 Old Federal Office Building, 911 Walnut St., Kansas City, MO 64106
COMSTA: WGY907 KANSAS CITY, MO.
WGY947 Des Moines, IA.
WGY957 Lincoln, NE.
WGY977 Jefferson City, MO.
WGY997 Topeka, KS.

08 Denver Federal Center, Building 7, Denver, CO 80225
COMSTA: WGY908 DENVER, CO. (1st. Alternate N.C.S.)
AV: 887-1345/1590/1691/1692
WGY928 Pierre, SD.
WGY938 Cheyenne, WY.
WGY948 BismarK, SD.
WGY958 Helena, MT.
WGY968 Golden, CO.
WGY9)8 Salt Lake City, UT.

09 211 Main St., Room 220, Building 205, San Francisco, CA 94129
COMSTA: WGY909 SANTA ROSA, CA.
AV: 799-4263/4274/4300, 896-1840
WGY929 Carson City, NV.
WGY939 Sacramento, CA.
WGY949 Phoenix, AZ.
WGY959 Honolulu, HI.
NPN Agana NAS, Guam

10 Federal Regional Center, Bothell, WA 98011
COMSTA: WGY910 BOTHELL, WA.
AV: 728-1940, 891-1401/1542
WGY920 Boise, ID.
WGY930 Olympia, WA.
WGY940 Salem, OR.
WGY960 Soldotna, AK.
WGY970 Juneau, AK.
WGY980 Alcantra, AK.
WGY990 Moses Lake, WA.

WGY911 Telecommunications Management Div.; Washington, DC

WGY912 Special VIP Support Facility; Mt. Weather, VA.
AV: 380-4234/5011

WGY915 National Communications System; Arlington, VA.
(May use Ft. Myer or Warrenton/Remington facilities)

WGY919

WGY989 National Emergency Training Center,
Emmitsburg, MD.

DOE Installations on this Net: VIP Evacuation/Support Facilities:
KAL22 Savannah River Plant Ft. Meyer, VA. WAR21
KAL23 Oak Ridge, TN. Ft. Belvoir, VA. WAR22
KAL24 Washington, DC (Hdqr.) Hagerstown, MD. WAR30
KGO45 Rocky Flats, CO. Mt. Weather, VA. WAR42
KLJ87 Los Alamos, NM. Mercersburg, PA. WAR45
Ft. Richie, MD. WAR46
Boonesboro, MD WAR47

NOTES:

Each Monday, Thursday & Friday; WGY903 (NCS) to all regions,
10493.0, @1600Z

Additional:
1st. Tuesday in January, April, July, October: NCS by WGY903 @ 1600Z.
1st. Tuesday in February, May, August, November: NCS by WGY906 @ 1600Z.
1st. Tuesday in March, June, September, December: NCS by WGY904 @ 1600Z.
2nd. Tuesday in March, June, September, December: NCS by WGY905 @ 1600Z.

Every Wednesday; Open drill between all regional stations. During any
disaster or emergency, the affected state is the authority.

Stations WGY900-WGY919 are used by FEMA Offices & Regional headquarters.

Stations WGY920-WGY998 are staffed by State-level and local offices.


4 posted on 10/21/2016 5:25:44 PM PDT by MarchonDC09122009 (When is our next march on DC? When have we had enough?)
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To: MarchonDC09122009

Bookmark


5 posted on 10/21/2016 5:28:02 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: MarchonDC09122009

TNX, 73


6 posted on 10/21/2016 5:28:04 PM PDT by Leo Carpathian (FReeeeepeesssssed)
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To: MarchonDC09122009

Is there an FR ham ping, and/or net freqs?


7 posted on 10/21/2016 5:29:05 PM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: MarchonDC09122009

There is NO Farmington,MA——which the list shows.

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8 posted on 10/21/2016 5:29:14 PM PDT by Mears
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Bookmark


9 posted on 10/21/2016 5:29:22 PM PDT by MagUSNRET
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To: MarchonDC09122009

Winlink Global Radio Email

http://www.winlink.org/

Winlink Express

The only client with everything Winlink offers.
Easy to set up, learn and use. Fully supported. Free.
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10 posted on 10/21/2016 5:30:33 PM PDT by MarchonDC09122009 (When is our next march on DC? When have we had enough?)
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To: Mad Dawgg

Serious info for your ping list (s)


11 posted on 10/21/2016 5:32:45 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: Mears

Quick keen eye you have.
It’s was meant to be: Framingham, MA, I believe.
There is however, a Farmington, CT that has one of the state’s largest Red Cross facilities incl emergency radio station.

Thx
73


12 posted on 10/21/2016 5:33:27 PM PDT by MarchonDC09122009 (When is our next march on DC? When have we had enough?)
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To: MarchonDC09122009

You can buy a Baofeng Black BF-F9 V2+ radio for about 45 bucks. They are good radios and superb for the price.


13 posted on 10/21/2016 5:35:06 PM PDT by Malsua
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To: BenLurkin

Since I dont understand a word of any of this, I’ll see you guys when the net goes back up, or IF the net goes back up.

Good luck!


14 posted on 10/21/2016 5:35:07 PM PDT by dp0622 (IThe only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: MarchonDC09122009

Bkmrk.


15 posted on 10/21/2016 5:35:31 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (<<<<< he no longer IS my 'teddy bear'.)
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To: MarchonDC09122009

Maybe it would be worthwhile to invest in ham radios, but most of us don’t have them right now. Are there other ways to communicate for Freepers that anyone can think of. Maybe some place that would not be a first target to be monitored or shut down by the government.

If communications were actually shut down, I would love to be contacted by Freepers.


16 posted on 10/21/2016 5:36:42 PM PDT by FR_addict (Ryan needs to go!)
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To: advertising guy

PING

THis might be a good thread to file for future reference......


17 posted on 10/21/2016 5:37:26 PM PDT by MagUSNRET
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To: MarchonDC09122009

I recently read “Liberty Stands” by Stephen Coonts. He presents a realistic scenario for government takeover.


18 posted on 10/21/2016 5:38:22 PM PDT by FR_addict (Ryan needs to go!)
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To: MarchonDC09122009

If this sh*t really goes down, you won’t need a damn license...


19 posted on 10/21/2016 5:38:46 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Look out kid, they keep it all hid)
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To: MarchonDC09122009

If this sh*t really goes down, you won’t need a damn license...


20 posted on 10/21/2016 5:38:46 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Look out kid, they keep it all hid)
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