Posted on 03/04/2017 3:15:02 PM PST by Morgana
A proposed California law would allow bicyclists to treat stop signs as yield signs.
The law would allow bicyclists to continue past stop signs provided there was no oncoming traffic and they felt safe doing so.
Stoplights would not be affected under the law.
(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...
Trying sharing a two-lane county road with a bicycle.
Add in some traffic, a curve, and a hill.....
They don’t stop now so what is different?
Not that dangerous really, bicyclists do it all the time, as long as you’re looking it’s not a problem. Of course if you’re getting caught you weren’t looking.
Just California’s liberal politicians dabbling in population control again.
Wull, as long as the driver of the car that hits them isn’t held accountable for their stupidity. As long as they can’t sue anybody. Not even the state for passing such a ridiculous measure. Because the taxpayer shouldn’t have to pay their freaking medical/funeral bills.
California as part of its enviro and antitech wackoism has this weird hatred of cars which manifests in passing tons of laws throwing millions at bike infrastructure, restricting and taxing automobiles, and allowing bikes to behave aggressively on the road. Guess this is just the latest one.
This is a good idea. It takes a lot of energy to start and stop and start again on a bicycle. Especially on the bottom of a hill. Cyclists are generally very aware and can safely roll stop signs.
When I used to ride a lot, I did it often, as long as there were no cars present and my doing so was not an inconvenience in any way to anyone else.
Plus, when a bike stops, the rider takes longer to get to speed, which does inconvenience the car behind him.
I’ve seen more cyclists without helmets AND ride like they’re jackholes. It’s law here in mexifornia that they have the same rights as a vehicle so they have that smug attitude to clog a lane while the rest of us avoid them.
I’m an avid cyclist, and even I think this is just plain stupid. I don’t have to put my feet on the ground to come to a momentary stop at a stop sign, before I proceed, which makes it legal. Not to mention, the rift this is going to exacerbate, and the legal ramifications when some idiot blows through a stop sign and gets hit. But hey, its not like the California Legislators have any pressing issues to work on.
“bicyclists do it all the time, as long as you’re looking it’s not a problem.”
When I’m in my truck am looking but do I see them? Maybe I do maybe I don’t. They are harder to spot than most motorcyclists. It’s okay though, I have steel around me, they only have spandax. What suck if now I have to sue them for damages.
I mean the bicyclist, they need to look as the come up to the stop sign to see if it’s clear. The California Roll Through is safe for those paying attention.
Nothing more obnoxious than a bicyclist.
I ride my bike and I roll stop signs. It’s just easier.
I used to be cyclist. I still own 4 high dollar road bikes. So,now that I’ve made that clear let me say, this law is a travesty. It reinforces most of the worst stereotypes that that motorist have about cyclist, in fact it makes those stereotypes true. It will engender anger and resentment from motorist that they are tempted to take out on others.
In my experience, most of the %$#@^&*#$!!! idiots pushing for this type of law ride fixed gear track bikes, often without any brakes other than reverse pedaling. They make a sort of valid claim that riding a fixed gear is difficult to stop and start again; especially when they ride too high a gear. The problem is, however that NOBODY should be riding a fixed gear track bike (a bike that cannot coast) on the road. It’s like driving a formula 2 racing car on the street. A better law - and remember I am a former triathlete, and bicycle commuter - is no fixed gear bicycles on the street. There, problem solved.
The good news is that the idiots pushing for this will be the ones to die from it.
“I mean the bicyclist, they need to look as the come up to the stop sign to see if it’s clear. The California Roll Through is safe for those paying attention.”
Problem is, these bikes act like they have the right of way at all times. Like the rules of the road don’t apply to them. Like they are the only ones on the road. Yes professional they are obnoxious. I have seen video after video of them making mistakes that could have and probably should have cost them their lives. Then they want to turn around and jump on the car drivers and blame them.
Will give you a for instance. Saw a car pull out in front of a bicyclist. Did the driver see the man, don’t know? He did it happens everyday to cars get over it. Does the bicyclist slow down so that he is at least so many feet behind the car should the car have to stop? No he keeps going at same speed and “tailgates” car for about 1/4 mile. Well you guessed it the car had to slam on his brakes and the bicyclist had to run over in a ditch to keep from hitting the car. So now that is the car’s fault? NO that is the bicyclist fault for not slowing down just as it would have been a car’s fault for not slowing down. If this person on a bike does not have enough sense to keep behind a moving car so many feet just like a car does/should then he and others like him has/have no business riding a bike
Since you were a cyclist see my post 16 and tell me what you think about what I saw...
I'm really surprised these people haven't figured out that putting all this money into bike lanes and "pedestrian-friendly streets" only serves to increase the interactions between motorists and these other completely unprotected users of the road.
I have ridden my bike a bit and I still believe that bicyclist should stop. It forces everyone to reset and check the traffic and conditions.
After all, it is the bicyclist who has more to lose.
“No he keeps going at same speed and “tailgates” car for about 1/4 mile. “
The cyclist was “dafting” off the car, using the pressure wave the car creates as it moves through the air to cheat a bit and go faster than he could pedal. I won’t say that when younger I’ve never done it but it is dangerous as all get out. Not only does a bicycle not accelerate as fast as a car they don’t decelerate as fast either without doing a front wheel stand.
The cyclist presumes the driver knows what’s going on and that the driver will not have to make an emergency stop. Neither of those are valid presumptions. Unlike a car a cyclist has to watch his front wheel as small bits of road debris or small potholes, unnoticed by a car driver must be avoided by a cyclist. That means a cyclist can’t be looking for brake lights all the time.
Cyclist have enough problems with drivers that are valid that they don’t need to create more.
Also as others above have said, I have rolled through stop signs on my bike lots of times in places where I thought it was safe. However, it’s like going 32mph in a 25mph zone. You can do it safely and many many people do lots of the time but that’s not an excuse if you get a ticket and isn’t an argument to raise a speed limit.
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