Liberals believe it is okay for the media to make up stories. Here's why.

Conversation with liberal associate | 12 June 2017 | Mene Mene Tekel Upharsin

[MeneMeneTekelUpharsin]

A liberal friend and I had a conversation the other day after I called her and asked what her take was on the Comey hearing. The topic of discussion was the clear statement by Comey that the news stories about the Russian manipulation of our electoral process are false.

The woman first denied my supposition that the media stories were "made up" and that they had deliberately put out lies. As the conversation progressed and through calm, logical explanation that Comey had said the stories were false and my belief that those producing such stories should face libel charges for the printed word and slandar charges for the spoken word, she then said that journalists, unable to get "answers" to their questions, had to "make up" stories BECAUSE they could not get answers to their questions.

What she meant was, reporters could not get the answers THEY WANTED and instead were hearing the opposite of what they wanted to hear and therefore were "forced" to make up a narrative that fit their agenda and she was OKAY with that because certainly the conservative side was "hiding" something. All of this shows that she and millions of other Democrats are deluded and have believed outright lies by the media.

This points out the fundamental difference between liberals and conservatives: Liberals have a total "situational ethics" moral foundation while conservatives to varying degrees have an absolute moral foundation. To the liberal, anything can be justified (the ends justifies the means) and to the conservative there is more clearly and "right and wrong" paradigm about life and government. In the absence of Biblical values, people will become "liberal". With Biblical teaching (where it is actually taught), people will become conservative.

Again the Bible has our answer:

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[MeneMeneTekelUpharsin]

Romans 1:24 Therefore God gave them over in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, that their bodies might be dishonored among them.
Romans 1:25 For they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.
Romans 1:26 For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural,
Romans 1:27 and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error.
Romans 1:28 And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper,
Romans 1:29 being filled with all unrighteousness, wickedness, greed, evil; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, malice; they are gossips,
Romans 1:30 slanderers, haters of God, insolent, arrogant, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents,
Romans 1:31 without understanding, untrustworthy, unloving, unmerciful;
Romans 1:32 and, although they know the ordinance of God, that those who practice such things are worthy of death, they not only do the same, but also give hearty approval to those who practice them.

And this one:

2 Thessalonians 2:9 that is, the one whose coming is in accord with the activity of Satan, with all power and signs and false wonders,
2 Thessalonians 2:10 and with all the deception of wickedness for those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth so as to be saved.
2 Thessalonians 2:11 And for this reason God will send upon them a deluding influence so that they might believe what is false,
2 Thessalonians 2:12 in order that they all may be judged who did not believe the truth, but took pleasure in wickedness.

This is where we are at this time.

[Fester Chugabrew]

Benjamin Franklin made up fake news to roil the Brits. Reader beware.

[Mamzelle]

Why would you want to have a conversation with such an awful person?

[TBP]

It’s not about facts or truth. It’s about the narrative, teh agenda.

Period.

[ColoCdn]

See this for insight.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2024764/posts

[jobim]

Thank you for conveying this personal anecdote, illustrating in yet one more way the lie upon which Progressivism is built.

I would add that denominations, to the extent that they move away from hard truths and into subjectivism so that the congregation is "welcomed", also, despite claims of Biblical foundation, lurch into Progressivism.

As a Catholic, I can tell you the pope and his hand-selected advisers and appointments throughout the world are Progressives. It is a shock for me to write this, and it in no way can take away the doctrine that will obtain long after these Progressives meet with Our Lord on their particular judgement days.

[OrangeHoof]

I can’t expect the unwashed to hold themselves to Judeo-Christian ethics. Most hard-core liberals are not particularly religious or use it as a cloak (see Sharpton, Jackson and Brazille).

Absent this dynamic, the liberal lives by the ethic of “the ends justifies the means”. That’s how they live with themselves about lying - they will tell themselves it is for the right cause.

[MeneMeneTekelUpharsin]

Why would you want to have a conversation with such an awful person?

How else can one determine what they actually think? You must have controlled conversations with them without being abrasive or ugly. Then, they'll tell you what they actually believe. As a result, here it is presented to you. Now, we know WHY they believe what they do...they have no regard for right and wrong. For them, ANYTHING is okay if it gets them what THEY want...truth be damned. It is a complete vacuum of values...a huge number of people have turned completely away from God. The solution is to make a sincere effort to get them to turn back to God.

[MeneMeneTekelUpharsin]

Excellent post and thanks for the link.

[LibWhacker]

Fake but accurate, baby. ‘Course, now they’ve proven accurate was never even a consideration. Next they’ll argue fake isn’t possible when a liberal says it. Similar to the claim that blacks can’t be racists.

[MeneMeneTekelUpharsin]

Next they’ll argue fake isn’t possible when a liberal says it. Similar to the claim that blacks can’t be racists.

Succinct and correct.

[butlerweave]

Advertisers also agree because they’re still buys spots

[AndyJackson]

How deplorable - bitter clingers on to the truth.

[AndyTheBear]

Seems she was operating with a foundation though—hive thinking fantasy, where all the wrongs in the world are the fault of people that refuse to join the hive-thinking.

[jimmygrace]

The leftists think that they benefit from the leftward bias in the media, but in reality, they are the biggest victims. Just like during the cold war when the west could laugh off the obvious lies coming from Pravda, the communists living under it were the ones who were suffering. Our media convinced these leftist dolts that Hillary would win in a landslide, and they constantly convince them that their support numbers are much higher than they are. They lose election after election and still can’t stop drinking the Kool-aid that comes from CNN.

[a fool in paradise]

Democrats know so much that just isn’t so.

[Bratch]

It doesn't help when your own party is complicit in providing cover for your adversaries.

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The Entire Deep State DC Institutional Apparatus Knew President Trump Was Not Under Investigation…

Posted on June 10, 2017 by sundance

When fired FBI Director James Comey testified to congress he admitted to telling President-Elect Donald Trump, and President Donald Trump, three times, he was never under investigation.

FBI Director Comey told President-elect Trump on January 6th he was not under investigation; Comey again told President Trump on January 27th he was not under investigation; and again on February 15th Director Comey told President Trump he was not under investigation.

However, more importantly, James Comey also admitted he told congressional leadership the exact same thing, repeatedly. Specifically, James Comey stated he informed:

•Paul Ryan,

•Nancy Pelosi,

•Mitch McConnell,

•Chuck Schumer,

•Devin Nunes,

•Adam Schiff,

•Richard Burr,

•Dianne Feinstein,

•Mark Warner.

James Comey personally told Republican and Democrat leadership, and both the Senate and House intelligence committees, that President Trump was not under investigation.

Think about that for a minute.

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That means all of these professional politicians knew the media claims of President Trump being under investigation was a nothingburger; completely false.

To add to that list, James Comey said he briefed each of the intelligence committees that President Trump was never under investigation.

Do you realize how many people that is?

House

• Mike Conaway (11th District of Texas),
• Peter King (2nd District of New York),
• Frank LoBiondo (2nd District of New Jersey),
• Tom Rooney (17th District of Florida),
• Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (27th District of Florida),
• Michael Turner (10th District of Ohio),
• Brad Wenstrup (2nd District of Ohio),
• Chris Stewart (2nd District of Utah),
• Rick Crawford (1st District of Arkansas),
• Trey Gowdy (4th District of South Carolina),
• Elise Stefanik (21st District of New York),
• Will Hurd (23rd District of Texas),
• Adam Schiff, Ranking Member (28th District of California),
• Jim Himes (4th District of Connecticut),
• Terri Sewell (7th District of Alabama),
• Andre Carson (7th District of Indiana),
• Jackie Speier (14th District of California),
• Mike Quigley (5th District of Illinois),
• Eric Swalwell (15th District of California),
• Joaquin Castro (20th District of Texas),
• Denny Heck (10th District of Washington)

Senate

• James Risch (Idaho),
• Marco Rubio (Florida),
• Susan Collins (Maine),
• Roy Blunt (Missouri),
• James Lankford (Oklahoma),
• Tom Cotton (Arkansas),
• John Cornyn (Texas),
• Dianne Feinstein (California),
• Ron Wyden (Oregon),
• Martin Heinrich (New Mexico),
• Angus King (Maine),
• Joe Manchin (West Virginia),
• Kamala Harris (California)

… All of them knew President Trump was not under investigation.

That also means that all of their key aides, staffers who assist each of the aforementioned politicians – and sit in on intelligence briefings, knew President Trump was not under investigation.

That network extends downstream to thousands of people on capitol hill, and everyone surrounding the White House, and everyone in key legislative contact, and they all knew President Trump was never under investigation.

That reality and acceptance also extends the concentric circles to those media voices and “sources” who were previously highlighted by WikiLeaks for close personal contact with each of the campaign teams and political constructs of those professional politicians.

The entire Deep State apparatchik knew President trump was not under investigation.

Heck, the leadership of the FBI and DOJ that James Comey often cites in his memos, leaks and explanations also knew President Trump was not under investigation; and all of the Washington Post, New York Times, WSJ and CNN stories were written based on these same “sources“.  Sources who knew President Trump was never under investigation.

Other than one obtuse statement from what was apparently a frustrated Senator Chuck Grassley, the entire DC system kept a lid on the truth that President Trump was not ever under investigation.

In addition to his committee chairmanship, and direct position on the ‘gang-of-eight’ Representative Devin Nunes was even part of the Trump transition team.  And James Comey stated he told Nunes that President Trump was not under investigation.

Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi and Minority leader Chuck Schumer were also personally told by James Comey that President Trump was not under investigation.

Speaker of the House Paul Ryan and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell were personally told by Comey that President Trump was not under investigation.

Representative Adam Schiff and Senator Mark Warner were personally told by FBI Director James Comey that President Trump was never under investigation.

How many interviews did Pelosi, Schumer, Ryan, McConnell, Schiff and Warner give where they allowed the media’s “Trump Under Investigation Narrative” to remain unchallenged?

Why would republicans Paul Ryan, Mitch McConnell, Richard Burr, and to a lesser extent Devin Nunes, never directly challenge the media narrative in their interviews?

Think about the scope of all of it.

Do you still cling to the invisible thread that the UniParty doesn’t exist?

Do you still somehow reconcile the professionally self-serving “Deep State” is merely a myth?

Think about it.

He wears a bullet proof vest for you.

Far beyond every single modern presidential candidate to ever run for office, this is one man who didn’t need to.

Remember this:

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[colorado tanker]

This goes back to Dan Rather. They really believe that fake can be “accurate.”

[jjotto]

All liberals make up stuff ‘for the greater good’.

Iowa recently put restrictions on abortions after the 20th week. All the liberals I know suddenly knew of relatives and personal friends who’d became pregnant from rape and just couldn’t decide to abort in 20 weeks. Unbelievable series of co-inky-dinks, and no one knew until the new law was proposed!

[MeneMeneTekelUpharsin]

Seems she was operating with a foundation though—hive thinking fantasy, where all the wrongs in the world are the fault of people that refuse to join the hive-thinking.

Good point.