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Lena Dunham Says Abortion “is the Most Basic of All Human Rights”
Life News ^ | June 23, 2017 | Micaiah Bilger

Posted on 06/23/2017 3:12:59 PM PDT by Morgana

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To: sourcery

We don’t kill the individual who commits the rape; why would we kill the person who is the result of a rape?


61 posted on 06/23/2017 6:37:54 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: sourcery
The argument from strict liability for the consequences of consensual sexual intercourse, is a libertarian and secular justice argument. It does not depend on "the unknown" or "the unknowable" but is verifiable independent of supernatural revelation. There's no reason which its reasonableness should not compel assent.

As for pregnancy subsequent to rape, it is a "competing goods" situation. Yes, the pregnant woman has a right to physical autonomy. However, the human offspring, who is at every point a bodily human being, has that same right.

Therefore the unborn human being has a right not to be aggressed against (just as the mother had that right, which was violated: but violated by the rapist, not by the baby!) The only way to terminate this "conflict pregnancy" in such a way that both parties, the mother and the baby, can peacefully go forward with their own lives, is childbirth.

62 posted on 06/23/2017 6:43:36 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Fact-based argument.)
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To: Morgana

Too bad her mother didn’t feel that way ...


63 posted on 06/23/2017 6:46:26 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Start using cash and checks or the elite class and bankers will make "cashless" the norm.)
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To: Lumper20; sourcery

Even if she could pay for it herself, abortion should not be allowed.

If I wanted you dead and could pay the hired assassin myself, it should not be allowed.


64 posted on 06/23/2017 6:47:04 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Fact-based argument.)
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To: Morgana

To chose between good and evil is pretty much our whole purpose in life. She choose poorly.


65 posted on 06/23/2017 6:50:00 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: ZULU

I disagree. Abortion is never the elimination of a grown aggressively offensive adult. It’s always the murder of a blameless child who has never aggressed against anybody.


66 posted on 06/23/2017 6:50:54 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Fact-based argument.)
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To: DuncanWaring
We don’t kill the individual who commits the rape; why would we kill the person who is the result of a rape?

Because a woman owns herself, and is no one else's slave, regardless of how dire their need. Otherwise, the left would be correct that there is a moral obligation to feed the poor and provide them with health care services at taxpayer expense.

67 posted on 06/23/2017 7:13:18 PM PDT by sourcery (Non Acquiescit: "I do not consent" (Latin))
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Therefore the unborn human being has a right not to be aggressed against.

Forcubly removing an unwanted trespasser from your property is not, by definition, "aggression." The only valid argument against abortion would be that voluntarily creating a baby creates a moral obligation. If you can prove that there is such, I'm all ears.

68 posted on 06/23/2017 7:17:06 PM PDT by sourcery (Non Acquiescit: "I do not consent" (Latin))
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To: sourcery

Many of “the poor” have the option of working to feed themselves.

The unborn do not have that option.


69 posted on 06/23/2017 7:23:06 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring

Admittedly, I was pro-life until I saw Sharia and Malaria Obama./s


70 posted on 06/23/2017 7:40:04 PM PDT by huckfillary
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To: sourcery

First if all, if a helpless little baby were placed on your property against your wishes, you would not have a legal or moral right to crush, decapitate, poison, or dismember that child.

You could call Child Protective Services or 911 and ask public authorities to take this child alive and safe off of your property as soon as it can be done without risk to the child. Bashing the kid with a shovel would be a criminal act.

Trespassing is not a capital crime. Moreover, the child, passive and helpless, was placed there. He did not intentionally or recklessly PUT himself there. He did not aggress.

So killing s child is still murder, even if the child was begotten by rape.

If intercourse was consensual, an additional argument of an “obligation to care” can be made, since all persons of reproductive age realize that intercourse can lead to pregnancy. This calls for strict liability.

Do you accept that there exists such a thing as parental obligation?


71 posted on 06/23/2017 7:43:29 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Live and let live.)
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To: All

The Right to Life is, obviously, the most basic human right.


72 posted on 06/23/2017 8:02:33 PM PDT by Architect of Avalon
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To: Morgana

Yes, liberalism is a mental disease and it is highly contagious when certain people are exposed to it. Immediately after contracting the disease they all become victims of something.


73 posted on 06/24/2017 6:37:00 AM PDT by Saltmeat
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I partially agree with you. The right to evict is not the right to kill. However, using the right to evict does not create an obligation to provide alternative housing. Nor does it obligate anyone else to do so. So I would posit that those who abort should do so in such a way that others who would be willing to provide alternative support structures would be able to do so.


74 posted on 06/24/2017 11:25:31 AM PDT by sourcery (Non Acquiescit: "I do not consent" (Latin))
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To: Morgana

You talk about ASS backwards. How in the Hell does this even make any sense? Goes against all Judeo-Christian Teaching and Tenets. Lena Dunham needs to be in serious Analysis for the next 30 years with daily does of Thorazine say about 30,000cc’s a day.

As far as abortion is concerned, I would make an exception in her case.


75 posted on 06/24/2017 11:30:31 AM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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