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Lot 3573: Singer - 1911A1 Rock Island Arsenal Auction Company
AuctionZip.com ^ | September 9, 2017 | By Rock Island Auction Company

Posted on 08/11/2017 1:52:00 PM PDT by Swordmaker


The Rarest WWII US Contract 1911A1 .45 Semi-Auto Pistols: one of the 500 made by Singer Manufacturing Company.


Estimate: $30,000 - $50,000

Description: Rare and Highly Desirable World War II U.S. Army Singer Manufacturing Company Model 1911A1 Semi-Automatic Pistol

This is a rare example of one of the 500 Model 1911A1 pistols manufactured by the Singer Manufacturing Company during WWII under the Ordnance Educational Order No. W-ORD-396.

Under that contract, the Singer Manufacturing Company produced a total of only 500 pistols. Consequently, they are considered very rare and highly prized by U.S. martial collectors today. It is theorized that almost all of these pistols were issued to the U.S. Army Air Corps, with a very low/limited numbered issued to the U.S. Army.

The consignor states that his father, a member of the 1471st Engineer Maintenance Company during World War II, won this pistol in a poker game played in an abandoned bunker along the bank of the Rhine River and the gun has stayed in his family until being sold at this time. The father’s unit arrived in France aboard the USS Henry Gibbon on January 16, 1945, and while making their way to the front by train, the 1471st was involved in a horrific train accident at the coastal city of Saint-Valery-En-Caux.

This lot includes a photocopy of the history of the train crash that was authored by a member of the 1471st and shows photos of the troop ship that took the 1471st to France and the train crash.

For a true .45 Auto collector, the Singer Manufactured M1911A1 pistol is the Holy Grail of all U.S. Model 1911A1 WWII pistols. It is complete with a WWI US marked leather holster. The back is stamped "WARREN LEATHER/GOODS CO./1918/J.A.D."

Manufacturer: Singer Model: 1911A1 BBL: 5 inch round Stock: Gauge: 45 ACP Finish: blue Grips: plastic Serial Number: S800297 Class: Curio & Relic Handgun Condition: Fine with 40% of the original blue finish remaining overall showing general wear and blue loss. Clear and distinct markings and proofs. The unique grips are very fine condition with nice clear plexiglass showing the two larger "Stars" underneath. While not Singer grips, they are very unique and certainly "one-of-a-kind" and appear to be period installed on the pistol and certainly WWII. Mechanically excellent.

Don't miss the chance for a genuine WWII-issued Singer M1911A1 semi-automatic pistol.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; History; Hobbies
KEYWORDS: 1911a1; banglist; guncollecting; wwiiguns
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This auction has some of the rarest guns I've ever seen offered including an exceptional Colt D Company Walker, finely engraved Winchesters and Colts, and rare cased sets. Many of these fine weapons were featured in the books that annotated art of gun making and decoration that we gun collectors bought and drooled over, knowing that we could never own these already bought up and now locked away gems. Now here they are, for sale.

Now, if you have the available money, you can own the guns you only could dream of having. The opening bid on this real martial collector's holy grail is a mere $27,500, but plan on kicking in an additional 20% buyer's premium on top of whatever the high-bid is when the hammer falls.

What is happening is that the legendary fine collections of the 20th Century are being broken up as their collectors are passing away and their heirs have little or no interest in maintaining the collections their fathers and grandfathers amassed throughout their lifetimes, or the collections have a huge inheritance tax burden and the only way to pay that tax is to sell them to satisfy the collection.

I've owned some really desirable collectors' guns in the past, such as Zane Grey's 1895 Winchester 30-'06 take-down hunting rifle and an absolutely mint, brand new condition, 1873 Winchester Musket with bayonet, complete with the cleaning rods still wrapped in the brown paper in the stock. . . and I've brokered some really desirable gun collections including ones with guns such as the 27th known 1847 Colt Fluck Dragoon (there's one of those for sale in this auction) and the patent model for the Remington 1875 revolver. Guns such as these can raise your heart rate when you see them.

1 posted on 08/11/2017 1:52:00 PM PDT by Swordmaker
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To: Swordmaker

A buddy of mine has a 1911; he’s a bit of a peacenik so he was a little circumspect showing it to me.

It was a Union Switch & Signal 1943 (from his research) 1911 and it was nothing but dead nuts bone stock. It was just in excellent used condition with about 11 molecules of rust on it. Just beautiful.


2 posted on 08/11/2017 2:00:12 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Apoplectic is where we want them!)
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To: Swordmaker

A Fluck Dragoon...
I’d like to see that!
Could you post a link to
The catalog?
At least give the auctio House....

Thanks!


3 posted on 08/11/2017 2:02:49 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)
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To: Swordmaker

Posted before seeing

AuctionZip.com


4 posted on 08/11/2017 2:04:32 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)
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To: Swordmaker

If it is US Govt. property, how could it be won in a poker game?


5 posted on 08/11/2017 2:05:08 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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For those who have always wanted to own a live Tommy Gun, there are several full-auto Thompson submachine guns for sale on this auction as well as other machine guns and Federally registered devices such as suppressors (silencers), silenced guns, short-barreled shotguns, etc.

There is at least one select fire Mauser Schnellfeuer Pistol up for auction.


These Class III/National Firearms Act firearms and devices, of course, require background checks and payment of the Federal transfer taxes, and are only legal in certain states (Residents of California, Hawaii, NY, NJ, and other Liberal strongholds can just drool). . . but you can own them if you live in those sane states.

6 posted on 08/11/2017 2:07:47 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: smokingfrog
"If it is US Govt. property, how could it be won in a poker game?"

I was thinking the same thing. The pistol was apparently stolen at some time in its past, so there's no bill of sale from the U.S. Government, and I wonder what the statue of limitation is on receiving stolen government property.

7 posted on 08/11/2017 2:13:12 PM PDT by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: smokingfrog
If it is US Govt. property, how could it be won in a poker game?

WWII. Back then the soldiers brought their sidearms and rifles home with them. . . probably not exactly legal, but they did.

8 posted on 08/11/2017 2:22:47 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: Swordmaker
Got it beat:

Assault_Pistol

9 posted on 08/11/2017 2:53:56 PM PDT by SkyDancer (You know they invented wheelbarrows to teach FAA inspectors to walk on their hind legs.)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

I like the 1911. I have four. This is a very cool model here.


10 posted on 08/11/2017 2:54:14 PM PDT by Openurmind
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To: SkyDancer
I love gun porn😬
11 posted on 08/11/2017 3:07:29 PM PDT by Keyhopper (Indians had bad immigration laws)
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To: Swordmaker
My late Dad left me a Colt 1911, stamped "United States Property M1911A1 U.S. Army" that has a six digit serial number starting with 9.
I know he bought it from a guy for $40 back in the 60's and said it was "liberated" after the war. He and the seller were both WWII veterans.
Can anyone tell me if this firearm is of high value or is it considered stolen property?
12 posted on 08/11/2017 3:08:30 PM PDT by dainbramaged (Get out of my country now)
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To: Big Red Badger
A Fluck Dragoon...
I’d like to see that!


Lot 3160: Colt Fluck Dragoon Percussion Revolver

13 posted on 08/11/2017 3:14:07 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: dainbramaged
Can anyone tell me if this firearm is of high value or is it considered stolen property?

Not likely stolen property. Value at least $900 or more depending on condition. Who is the listed manufacturer?

14 posted on 08/11/2017 3:16:32 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: Big Red Badger
This is what the Fluck Dragoon's were replacing due to destruction in service:


Lot 3162: Rare Colt D Company Walker Model 1847

15 posted on 08/11/2017 3:21:43 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

Bump for gun porn


16 posted on 08/11/2017 3:35:30 PM PDT by painter ( Isaiah: �Woe to those who call evil good and good evil,")
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To: PROCON

Ping for your list.


17 posted on 08/11/2017 3:53:45 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: Swordmaker
This is what the Fluck Dragoon's were replacing due to destruction in service:

I see what you did there.

18 posted on 08/11/2017 3:54:27 PM PDT by Disambiguator (Keepin' it analog.)
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To: Swordmaker

I own and shoot a Uberti reproduction of the Colt Walker. What a beast! The most powerful handgun in the World until the introduction of the .357 in the 1930s.


19 posted on 08/11/2017 3:54:52 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono
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To: Swordmaker

It appears very well machined.


20 posted on 08/11/2017 3:55:26 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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