Posted on 09/09/2017 9:53:49 PM PDT by Olog-hai
and build more Coal fired power plants to get the power to recharge to cars ,Oh wait ,LOL
I don’t get the desire for electric cars. I remember California with rolling blackouts due to people using to much electricity. Add billions and electric usage will skyrocket to where people end up with a few hours of electricity a day...maybe
See post #39 nap. It is not just the quiet, smooth and torque. Making an engine/drivetrain EPA compliant and all the ancillary side effects of said powertrain in it’s confines and everywhere else it effects a vehicle is daunting. So complex it has become one of my auto gnomes noted as he looked @ a prototype he was working on and said oh frig it, why not just stick and entire e-drive train in it ( I am not kidding )....
Probably control. What’s easier to keep from the people, the supply of liquid fuel or the supply of electricity?
These are not Western fads. They always have a hand in them, what with it primarily being their acolytes in the West promoting them.
They are not defunding the Middle East. Who else would buy their weapons?
Oh goody, more gasoline for us :-)
Sure, if we can get their reserves out of their hands (about 400 million barrels at last estimate).
You can not run a major country on predominately electric.
Maybe 5?
Maybe 5% ?
That is.
It will take demand pressure off the market. We’ll have $0.18-$0.30/gal silver equivalent gasoline for generations :-)
“The cleavage point is not that you cannot own private property under communist regimes, it is that even though you think you own it, it can be taken from you for no reason whatsoever.”
How different are we with the EPA declaring your backyard puddle a wetland, or a municipality forcing you to sell your property under eminent domain, or the state passing laws telling you how much you can charge for rent and who you can rent to, or who you can hire?
Problem is we seem to be going where China used to be and China is moving more toward what we used to be.
China is not moving towards what we used to be; if they were, then you’d start seeing the ban lifted on other parties in government and their constitution looking more like the USA’s (subverted) one and not the USSR’s. They are moving towards what the USSR used to be. They are quite bubble-laden economy-wise, too.
The electric car move is characteristic of leftism, not a move away from it.
This is all true, but not really the point.
We do have limits on what and how the government can seize your property. Just don’t pay the taxes on your house and see how long that takes.
They don’t have any limits. They can take what they want, whenever they want, for no reason at all.
China is working on mass producing small modular nuclear reactors. Lots of them.
This is why so many Chinese are busy buying property in the West. The name of the game is getting your wealth OUT of China, so the Party CAN'T take it from you, and getting your kids born in the US so they have US citizenship. They know the purge is coming.
I seem to remember years back the US was going to do the same, but the leftist EPA and pothers put the kabosh to that idea. Perhaps China took the plans and are running with it while we continue to slip back into 2rd world status ... with 3rd not far behind ...
“They don’t have any limits. They can take what they want, whenever they want, for no reason at all.”
True but that goes for any dictatorship, communist or not. My point is that the current dictatorship in China allows for people to own private property, which is the antithesis of marxist communism, and it is that that has allowed china to prosper so fast.
I don’t think they are stupid enough to kill the goose that’s laying golden eggs for them.
Not only that, but if they try to go back to maoism, they’ll have a revolution in their hands - they are very sensitive about keeping the masses quiet and reasonably happy, and that’s what keeps them from taking what they want when they want.
This is where I differ: At a fundamental level, China is no different than its previous iterations of its own brand of communism or any other kind of communism, Soviet or otherwise. It has a nice, shiny, exterior, but in the end, it is government control, which does not work, and which they will implement with no reservation.
People in communist societies have always been able to buy things with their own money. Phonographs, clothes, cars, etc. But it has always been with the understanding that it is never really theirs, that the state can step in and take it or dispose of it as they wish.
Communist China may have a mishmash of capitalism and communism, resulting in more production and available goods, and people have more disposable income, but the bottom line is, Chinese communist citizens have no recourse to government appropriation of their property.
They are all fooling themselves, because with the prosperity at hand, the government isn't stepping in and exerting their will. But I guarantee you, and without any hesitancy, in the case of any issue affecting the country with or without civil unrest, they will exercise communist control without any squeamishness whatsoever.
I don't disagree that there would be civil unrest if they did. And I also disagree with the concept that they are not stupid enough to kill the goose that lays the golden eggs.
They are communists. They believe in Marxism. That is proof they are stupid enough. They may be communists with a little "c", but just like a gallon of fresh water with a drop of sewage in it, that is enough.
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